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Landry Jones

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 58stillers, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. BK99

    BK99 Well-Known Member

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    If the XFL can work through a 2nd season with even a little success it will cause a major shake up in the college game. I read an article from 5 or 6 years ago about the SEC and how they employ special "tutors" to keep a lot of these kids academically eligible. So a lot of these kids, especially those not getting a full ride but have skills may look to get paid while auditioning for a job in the NFL and not have to worry about studies.

    I would not be afraid to bet if the XFL can last more than 2 seasons it will start picking off HS talent away from colleges. Enough of it that colleges may start paying athletes or letting them get paid endorsement deals. The only way it doesn't happen is if the NCAA has the NFL create a rule of some type that bars XFL players from eligibility for 5 years or something. It happened with the NBA no longer taking kids right out of HS, now imagine a kid out of HS playing against former NFL talent for 2 seasons rather than college?
     
  2. strummerfan

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    Hardly. You’re seriously grasping at straws there
     
  3. strummerfan

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    I would bet dollars to donuts every single major college program employs tutors for student athletes. It certainly isn’t limited to the sec. just imagine that fresh out of high school kid getting absolutely destroyed by a former NFL player.
     
  4. Roonatic

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    Not yet. If they could get their feet under them then they could offer more $$$ to players. NFL is in destroy mode as we speak.
     
  5. Stone

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    I have said this for at least 5 years! I guess I just thought that we as Americans would push back a little more against the uber corrupt NFL but I was wrong! There seems to be a never ending line of people willing to pay unGodly amounts of money no matter how despicable the NFL continues to be.
     
  6. The Glory Days

    The Glory Days Well-Known Member

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    I'm not, and wasn't, arguing with you. I have no idea what you think I'm grasping at.
     
  7. santeesteel

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    Good idea! He could specialize in demolition!
     
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  8. Iowasteeljim

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    I don't know, if the new league lets these guys play football the way it was meant to be played, I might be interested. Just to be clear, it will never compete with my love for the Steelers, but I wouldn't mind watching some guys actually be allowed to hit each other.
     
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  9. Roonatic

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    Spot on Iowasteeljim.
     
  10. Vox Ferrum

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    Ratings were down, then sprang up this year. 40 of the top 50 sports broadcasts were NFL airings last year. A lot can happen in a few years and the NFL may indeed find a way to sink itself before the next TV contracts come in, but I would not bet on it. The viewing habits and choices may change, but the few still hold the greatest amount of viewing potential and they will pay handsomely for the rights to broadcast the NFL. The NCAA landscape Vs XFL garnering some midlevel talent might be a bigger problem for them. Even with the few players who will get money from local sponsorships in some NCAA markets, the money will not be there for most of the 80 plus scholarship players.

    Players in places like Ohio State, where college football is godlike will have better chances of cashing in, and there are many U's like that, but still not many players are going to impact a local market like that. I could see the XFL attracting players who really do not like school and could make a decent buck hoping to elevate their game to attract NFL scouts. How many NBA players have ever made the jump from HS, and even few one and done NCAA develop to star status. Besides the physicality, the level from college to Pro is pretty high. I just do not see many HS kids being able to make that jump successfully...or a team willing to invest mega bucks to train a kid 3 years, only to have him jump ship to the highest bidder.
     
  11. Stone

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    Too bad the XFL can't advertise "football the way it was meant to be played" I think it would attract a lot of TV ratings but the NFL would shut them down one way or another in a matter of minutes.
     
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  12. Roonatic

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    All the XFL has to do is attract the networks. And maybe start play during the two week lull before the SB.
     
  13. Vox Ferrum

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    You are right. They already have some sort of deal with ESPN (who doesn't), to attract the big money however..which in turn is going to create a market for at least some marquee players, they need a couple of successful seasons of proven ratings. The NFL minimum was 495,000 last year, I think a practice squad player made 8 grand a week. The average XFL contract is around 55,000.

    I seriously doubt even long term the XFL is any real threat, what it can do ir provide a bridge and second chance for some guys into the NFL, and for others to continue to get paid for playing the sport they love.
     
  14. Roonatic

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    Agree that they cannot compete with the NFL salary wise. Some good points about 2nd-3rd tier players having a stage to showcase on. Now if it is true that they are affordable for a family to go see at the stadium then that might be a foot in the door to creating a following. A long timeline later, maybe they sway the NFL followers that are tired of the constant rewriting of the way the game is played. The NFL product is getting under people's skin for multiple reasons that a poster has listed around here in a thread. Hitting rules, commercialism, political stances, CHEATING, cost to see a game let alone season tickets, being the networks lapdog, etc. Just some thoughts on what is & what could be. How long did it take the AFL to spook the NFL to the bargaining table? 10 years or so? Hell the NFL had to overcome other professional leagues when they were up & coming. The pioneers that made it successful are long gone. I don't see the current crop of ownership anywhere near as dedicated to producing a must see product.
     
  15. Vox Ferrum

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    I see what you are saying..and only time will tell. The comparison with the NFL/AFL has problems however. From the start the AFL was able to sign a lot of their top draft picks pulling talent away from the NFL. the AFL had a network contract, though from a very weak (at the time) ABC, there were still only so many broadcast outlets. The AFL was able to establish itself in cities that had wanted an NFL franchise, and then bring develop a unique style of football. It only took about 4 to 5 years to get the NFL talking, and the merger was completed in the 10th year.

    Again time will tell, is there a real market for spring football? is the quality of the product able to garner and maintain interest?
     
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  16. BigBensBigBong

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    I think the NFL views competitors like the XFL as a development league where they can benefit short term (develop some undrafted players and they eventually could uncover a few NFL worthy players). However, if the XFL caught on and became a threat to steal players who would have otherwise been drafted, the sheet hits the fan when the owners see that and get outraged. I think they could do things that would eventually bankrupt or at least degrade the XFL. In other words, they are so big they could squash them like a bug if they wanted to.
     
  17. Stone

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    I don't see the XFL robbing any "potential" talent from the NFL. I don't see any player coming out of college, who thinks he might have NFL talent, going to the XFL before he tries the NFL. And let's face it, every college player thinks he is NFL talent.

    I think the XFL will be made up of guys who didn't get drafted by the NFL, couldn't make an NFL team, or bounced around the NFL until the phone stopped ringing.

    That being said, I'm sure there will be some players rise up from the XFL to the NFL.
     
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  18. Diamond

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    The XFL has Fox, ABC, espn, and FS 1 showing their games, they hope to get contracts signed with them next year if this opening season is successful as it seems to be after two games....
     
  19. Diamond

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    Starting quarterbacks make an annual salary of up to $495,000, with the average XFL quarterback to earn $125,000. 52 players are on each team's regular-season roster, far more than the 38 in the original XFL and comparable to the size of the 53-man NFL rosters; 46 of those 52 are active on any given game day.
     
  20. blackandgoldpatrol

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    the xfl has a real chance if the nfl has issues working out a new cba
     
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  21. 4124life

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    I was just wondering the same thing. I get the managers take a cut and taxes but he obviously must not have been wise with his money
     
  22. thorn058

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    HE took the job because that is all the contractor had and Landry wanted to learn the business. Very humble didnt walk in going Im an NFL QB I deserve an office job in your company. He just wanted to learn and he did whatever was asked.
     
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  23. bigbenhotness

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    Landry Jones debut

    28/40 305 yards, 1 td 2int 79.7 rating
     
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  24. Stone

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    Dude! I swear you spend you day searching for the most disturbing avatar!

    LJ looked okay, he was a bit rusty with receiver timing which lead to the two picks but he threw a nice ball. Kudos to Bob Stoops for seeing that LJ was struggling and going to the run game. I wonder if Stoops would be interested in the Steelers OC position?
     
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  25. Roonatic

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    He said he played horrible. One of his int.'s that I saw was horrible. 305 yds is a good # for this league? Haven't been keeping up what the league norm has been.
     
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