Landry Jones

I have no beef with Landry Jones personally. It's not his fault the Steelers drafted him.

I have a major beef with the decision to draft him.

First, it was a fourth rounder, a reasonably high pick, used by a team with needs to draft a position that was unlikely to contribute anything, not even to special teams for years.

Second, Jones was going to sit for yrs almost certainly. If he turned out to be great QB that was undervalued, he would still sit and he'd bide his time and leave as FA to play somewhere else. You couldn't even get much in trade, because even if you knew he was a great raw talent from practice, nobody else could see it and they'd give you nothing in trade.

Third, as long as Ben is around, the perfect backup QB for this team is an experienced guy with some NFL starts who can cover for you a few games if Ben gets hurt. If you have SB aspirations, you shouldn't waste your opportunities letting greenhorn Landry get up the learning curve if he has to make some starts, you might miss the playoffs. And that why, PGH has signed experience veteran backups at QB, which ensure Landry sits and never gets a development chance. No matter what.

If Jones was a great QB, he'd leave as he's likely sitting behind Ben - and you get no value
If Jones stinks, he never sees a snap and you get no value.
If he turned out to be a 'good' backup, you wouldn't know because you'd never trust him to find out.

There was almost no upside that I can to drafting Landry Jones.

 

That's because there's a lot of concern over Gradkowski being a solid backup, the reality is gradkowski couldn't pick this offense up and win if ben missed multiple games.

 

Then get a better second string QB.

 

Some of these guys kill me.
Now it's LJ's fault that Gradkowski is no good?

 

I was actually glad when we got him because at least then he couldn't play for the raiders and come in here and beat us. LOL. I really did always kinda like the guy though. I just thought he was one of those guys that was a pretty good journeyman that never could get on a good team.

 

Ray Fittipaldo of the Post Gazette, talked about the Steelers should ditch the antiquated system of keeping 3 QBs on the roster. He said why not cut Landry and sign Tahj Boyd or some other QB to the practice squad. He also said that's a valuable roster spot for someone who almost never plays, my sentiments exactly.

 

I call BS the wasted roster spot is a myth. The impact of any player you pick to take the 3rd string QB's spot will be marginal at best and maybe just maybe sees time on special teams. The only value to be seen is by fans who want to keep project guys off the PS so they don't get poached which really is a waste.

 

My thoughts on Landry, coming out of Oklahoma he had impressive stats, he passed for 16,646 yards for 123 TDs, not many QBs can boast 123 TDs coming into the draft, now just why is he not living up to his resume, did the coaches change his technique to where he is uncomfortable in his throwing motion and foot work, some QBs cant throw the ball if they have the technique they feel the most natural in disrupted, at any rate this will be his 3rd training camp and he needs to have what ever problem thats bothering him addressed and prove he is that quarterback he was at Oklahoma, or it just might be curtains for him, I'm hoping we get the Landry this preseason that he was at Oklahoma , he's had plenty of time to make the adjustment from college to the pros and this is the year for him to prove it....

 

I agree. The same case could be made (as I frequently do) about keeping a space for a Long Snapper (I mean, that's all he does? Your backup centre couldn't do that as well...?). Or, indeed, carrying the 17 TEs we did the other year. Roster spots come and go.

I'd have liked to have seen Mauro stick around, of course, but preferable at the expense of Cam Thomas.

 

We know the real reason why Landry Jones is still on the team.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews...ster-on-oklahoma-womens-basketball-team.html/

 

Any player that takes that roster spot of a 3rd string QB like Landry will still contribute more, I would rather have Mauro on the team than Landry. Mauro may not be a finished project but in his second season would probably be in the rotation at DE.

 

That is a reach since Mauro didn't make the roster in the first place and it wasn't because they had to keep 3 QB's. If he had made it through the season on the PS he would have to again fight for a spot and maybe maybe he pushes Cam Thomas out. Every time this myth comes up for the last four or five seasons I have started a thread asking people to give me the guy they would replace the 53rd member of the roster with or in this case Landry Jones is out who would you replace him with and why and then give examples of how you think they would see the field. It is always the same some random player that is a project guy that can play special teams and the only reason that gets tossed around is player x would provide depth while having a 3rd string QB is a wasted spot. Just for s and g's pick one guy currently on the roster and a reason he should be on the 53 over Jones.

 

devin gardner if he can return punts. that's all I got thorn. I would have kept munchaks Johnson instead of Dangerfield last year.

 

Yeah Mac but again if they kept Wes Johnson he was a solid project guy who could play all the positions on the line but would he have seen action last season? Sure we would have still had him available this year and with a solid year with Munch under his belt so maybe this year he could push Foster out or maybe Gilbert but that only means some one else further down will be pushed out and Landry Jones still makes the team. At this point anything beyond the 2nd string depth is low impact wouldn't you say? We are talking about 5th and 6th receivers, 5th safeties, 6,7 or 8th DB's guys that again good project guys but not likely to push their way up the depth chart if given the chance although there are exceptions. So lets say they move Jones to the PS this year so they can keep DHB for special teams, Coates as the 4th WR and a 6th WR(whatever guy stands out) when are you going to use that 6th guy? WHo do you takes snaps away from? If you go defense maybe an extra DL guy but again who are you taking snaps from?

 

i hear ya. my biggest gripe was losing so many good players off the PS. 2 up and coming DE's and then johnson that never even made it to the PS off the 53. yet we kept landry and BW webb and then brought up dangerfield. that was 3 pretty good prospects for 3 guys that don't give you much in the way of field time or a high ceiling for the future. losing two draft picks.

landry i have never had a problem with, but he's got to show. i hate the poaching part of the PS. there should be some type of payment to go along with taking of these guys since they do count towards the salary cap during the year. especially if they see field time like mauro did for ariz., or if they are a draft pick.

 

I'm not sure that list does your argument any favors. There are lots of starters on that list.

 

Yeah, I think the point of BFs list is more that the ones who aren't starters were pretty much gone either in preseason or shortly after, and general made little contribution.


On reflection, I don't have too much of an issue with the pick. We needed a back up, Jones was coming out of college with good stats (though obv these aren't everything), and seemed to be one the better bets at that stage in the draft.

I don't think for a minute that the coaching staff are sat right now saying: "this guy is awful, but we'll look stupid if we let him go now! Better pass up on the future HOFer Taj Boyd rather than lose face!" If a guy turns up who looks a better prospect, then Jones will have to fight for his position. I also don't buy that they would put someone on the practice squad just because they're an UDFA. At the moment, they're going with 3 QBs on the roster, regardless of who those 3 are.

 

If a player can excel on special teams that's still more production than a scrub 3rd string QB.

 

So you are saying you want DHB on the team?

 

Speaking of...Why does he get everyone up in arms? He's done nothing but come in and do what he's been asked to do and excel on Special Teams.

 

True.

I don't know, but I'd imagine the logic is along the lines of:
- Big name comes into the team, renowned for underachieving
- Big name is hardly ever on the field, and rarely catching the ball
- Conclusion: big name must not be trying hard enough/underachieving again

Like you say, though, he's doing what he's being asked to do. Having that kind of veteran depth allows the likes of Martavis Bryant to be a pleasant surprise, rather than a must-hit.

 

73 replies on a post on Landry Jones. Good lord are we bored? The Steeler universe won't be straight for another month and a half.