1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.
    Dismiss Notice

Kenny Vs Big Ben

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel_d_curtain, Sep 11, 2023.

  1. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

    2,597
    583
    Oct 19, 2011
    oh how we forget.

    He’s a quarter of the way.

    15 straight until he ran into a spygate cheating franchise and then wins a Super Bowl.

    The perfect season might get duplicated before that happens next.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 I am free

    30,983
    11,257
    Oct 26, 2011
    1989

    Browns 51 Steelers 0

    Bengals 41 Steelers 10

    They went on to get into the playoffs and won the first round
     
    • Like Like x 2
  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

    24,782
    4,069
    Dec 18, 2016
    I'm not sure which is funnier, your ridiculous over-reaction or somebody actually agreeing with you.
     
  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

    24,782
    4,069
    Dec 18, 2016
    Man, that opener was a serious beating. That was Carnell Lake's first game in the NFL and I think he was the only Steeler to play worth a damn that day. The only other highlight was my cousin and I moving from our seats in the nosebleeds to the second row at midfield during the second half. I remember an usher coming up to stop us, then throwing up his hands and telling us it was fine as long as we didn't try to sit in the first row.
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    36,011
    9,406
    Dec 23, 2020
    You need to go back ,and watch. We had guys open. If I knew how to show the stuff just with the TV copy there were guys open.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2023
  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

    24,782
    4,069
    Dec 18, 2016
    After the first few drives, yes, there were receivers open. It just wasn't happening until they were down by double digits.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    43,319
    9,645
    Oct 16, 2011
    He’s talking about Canada. Theres been rumblings of this before, DJ and Pickens aren’t happy with the schemes.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

    2,159
    672
    May 12, 2013
    Look at that 2004 roster. Nine Pro Bowlers, three first team All Pros and three Hall of Famers. One can easily argue for a 4th HOF in Ward. And we haven’t even mentioned Farrior, Taylor, Bell, A Smith, Hampton, W Parker, Kiesel, Burress, Kimo. That team was loaded and a perfect place for a young QB to come in and succeed
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  9. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

    10,473
    1,507
    Oct 17, 2011
    ...Mitch? Mitch?? Is that you...?
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  10. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

    2,597
    583
    Oct 19, 2011
    And it still took a historical winning streak in year two to get into the wildcard, then win a game that was still close once Palmer was injured early AND a magical tackle by Ben in the 2nd round.

    Purdy also has a wildly stacked team and I still don’t think he can do it.

    Maybe he will though; I’ve been wrong before.
     
  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    36,011
    9,406
    Dec 23, 2020
    And???
     
  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    36,011
    9,406
    Dec 23, 2020
    Some of those guys You just mentioned weren't even on that team at that time, or and some didn't even hardly play, and some didn't contributeat all.. LoL. It's so hard for some of You so called Steelers fans to give credit to Ben. LoL
    How about let's look at this. Old a$$ Ben's last two years on this team with M. Canada on the team....scored 56 tds, and 20 ints. We've already passed the turnovers, but it may take 5, or 6 years to get the tds. How about that for prospective.
     
  13. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

    17,532
    3,518
    May 9, 2012
    We had players wide open over and over! Stop the bs narrative. Kenny **** the bed. Period!
     
  14. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

    2,159
    672
    May 12, 2013
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2004_roster.htm
    To be fair, Kendrell Bell was injured and on the tail end of his Steelers career. Conversely, Fast Willie was a rookie. The others were solid contributors and I would challenge anyone who says the 2023 roster is of the same quality. I’m not taking anything away from Ben and what he did. His body let him down in the end and not his skills or his football IQ. However, for every one Ben, there are 10 Sam Darnold(s) who were also talented but did not have the support system that Ben did
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    36,011
    9,406
    Dec 23, 2020
    This is You, and a bunch of people's problems. You can't pick, and choose. This is like the dumb statement of saying if Marino was Here we would have more SB wins. LoL. Not a person knows that for sure.
    We had Kordell, Batch, and Tommy play with those teams what did they do with that team before Ben got there???
    Bell did absolutely nothing that year. I'm not sure He was even on the field once, and I believe Parker had a total of 186 yards ,and no tds. Kiesel wasn't anything but a special teams player.
    Darnold sucks. He was a turnover machine in college....what GM thought a Qb that was a turnover machine at a major school playing nobodies was going to get better at it in the NFL blows My mind. This is problem with drafting Qbs by arm strength, and running speed. It's also the reason a guy like Purdy gets taken in the 7th in today NFL that is more concerned with athletic abilities at the Qb position then if they can actually play QB. It's the reason a Qb that sucked in College at a major school got picked in the 1st round this year. LoL
     
  16. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

    24,782
    4,069
    Dec 18, 2016
    That is why there is reason to put part of the blame for Sunday's stinker on Canada. Pickett had time and nowhere to go with the ball multiple times on the first three drives. I think that is why he forced the ball to Johnson, which led to the interception when he fell. By the time Pickett actually had open receivers to throw to, the Steelers were down by double digits.
     
  17. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

    24,782
    4,069
    Dec 18, 2016
    That was after they were down by double digits. The problem when they were digging that hole was that nobody was open. This is not excusing Pickett's poor play at all. It can both be true that the scheme is a problem and Pickett played poorly.

    Sunday was a return to what we saw against Buffalo and Philadelphia last season. Pickett may be ready to do more this season, but we saw Sunday that he's not ready to carry the entire offense by himself.
     
  18. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

    17,532
    3,518
    May 9, 2012

    I beg to differ. On his first interception the cb had outside leverage. In that situation kenny had to throw inside, but he went outside. Another 3rd down early he had dj open with nobody in front on a crosser(righ to left) and flat out missed. Missed another to muth…
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

    23,477
    5,854
    Apr 21, 2016

    This.


    Then again, this is another example of something being taken out of context. Yes, Pickett didn't play well but Canada is been terrible.
     
  20. doubleyoi

    doubleyoi

    7,254
    1,517
    Apr 26, 2012
    “But I need to definitely be a lot better.” -KP
     
  21. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    32,196
    7,866
    Nov 14, 2011
    I bet Pickett won't go on a radio show and throw his teammates under the bus like Ben did :shrug:.
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  22. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

    5,040
    1,006
    Dec 8, 2021
    And they had Denver on the ropes.
     
  23. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

    5,040
    1,006
    Dec 8, 2021
    I always figured you for a Swifty
     
  24. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

    8,769
    1,721
    Nov 28, 2021
    :lolol:
     
  25. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

    8,769
    1,721
    Nov 28, 2021
    Are you serious? Thinking Darnold wouldve been as good as Ben with a supporting cast? Wow, Ben really left a bad taste in your mouth. Do yourself a favor and watch Ben from his rookie season up to the end of his career on youtube. Than reassess your opinion.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!