Just Imagine...

Imagine for a second if Steelers were actually good this year and we took care of the bad teams. Bucs, Saints, Jets... We would be sitting at 10-2 and thinking superbowl. There is no ifs ands or buts about it, we are very mediocre. Those Colts and Ravens game kinda fooled us for a second, but we are who we thought we were.

If I were you guys I would just watch these last 4 games with the mindset that we will lose, it's easier on your blood pressure and mood. Now granted if Steelers go on a roll and win 4 straight and then another 4, well then I'll be eating the biggest crow with a smile on my face.

NGH though lol.

 

Im not really all that surprised me lost to the Saints. They still have Drew Brees and we have NO secondary so...

 

Yeah but Ravens have no secondary AND they beat them at the dome. I guess our pass rush IS just that bad, and got a whole lot worse with da beard down. Meaning our offense will have to put up at least 30 against bungles, 40 against falcons, and 30 against chiefs.

 

This team could come out and beat Cincy 55-10 or get beaten 55-10.

Under MT this team is and has been for a couple seaons now Jekyll and Hyde.

I'm not getting my expectations up anymore.

 

Flako is the better QB, we lost cus Ben is garbage, he couldn't even hit the wide open receivers

 

Please don't ever say that again lol.

 

Trust me I can't stand the guy, but it is what it is, Flako is more consistent and has the better arm, he just floats them up perfectly, as where Ben throws them to the camera guys, or to the ground hogs.

 

The thing is Ben can be hot or cold...usually against great defenses he crumbles though and our defense would bail us out. He doesn't have that anymore. I don't know if the injuries have taken it's toll, he's gotten older, lost confidence, doesn't care, or was just really overrated to begin with. Either way I don't think he is done just yet and we have no one better.

 

The Ravens defence are the worst in the league with defending opposing teams WR's. They beat the Saints. We have a better secondary than the Ravens do. Drew Brees isn't the Drew Brees of old. The Saints run the ball more than ever these days.

Serious question here, if we can't beat the Pats, Broncos, Saints or Packers and it's just expected that we will lose to teams with truly elite QB's, why not change whatever it is that's causing us to accept losses against these teams? Some of the people who expected us to lose are the same people who don't want to see Tomlin or Lebeau leave. Well if you want to beat the top QB's in the league, something has to change. Other than 2008, we simply haven't had a good enough defence to stop those kinds of QB's. It's now 6 years later and we still can't beat those QB's. At what point is enough enough?

 

I've noticed this team is a momentum team. We weren't doing anything to Texans until the turnovers started happening. Same with Ravens. Against the Colts we just came out hot. We need playmakers on defense. We need to up our special teams as well. Our offense isn't elite by standards but we can't win games scoring 40 + every game.

 

Bingo!!, cus we've had so many bad QB's , when an average guy comes along he looks like God. He has some skills , but he doesn't have the personality to listen or the vision to look around for other options, it's like he gets bored if things become too easy, he always has to make things difficult. Those 2 big games were the worst thing that could've happened, now he's gone back to looking for the long bombs, and he's getting sacked again which = injured. The Haley plan just went back out the window.

 

I gotta give Flacco credit, he wins. There's something to be said for a guy that can win games when it's really needed and he seems to often get the job done. Ben was once a winner too. He had a knack for doing whatever it took to get the points that won us the game. Yes, our defence kept us in games, but Ben always did enough to win, even if he was struggling. That hasn't been the case for a long time now. He doesn't drive down the field to get us a come from behind win. It simply doesn't happen anymore. When we need him to make that one play, he can't do it.

 

Hate to agree with you because he is my favorite player but, it is what it is. He is not elite. He has 4 weeks to prove otherwise.

 

Maybe, just maybe, he can't make that comeback because the OL can't hold their blocks for longer than 3 seconds. They do, however, do a good job of getting drive killing penalties!

 

in the 2010 Superbowl when we had a chance to make a GW TD, did Ben choke or was GB defense that good?

 

Ben doesn't throw the ball when his WR's break. He holds, pump fakes and waits for someone to be open. This hurts the OL. Ben needs to throw the ball instead of holding it. The OL may not be great, but neither is GB's or NE's, but they've managed to game plan around that fact. Ben makes his OL look worse than they actually are

 

For as much as Ben has been choking and just making bad plays you have to look at the drops on this team from his receivers. If the receivers get their head in the game and start catching those ones that get away there is a totally different outcome. If it hits you in the hands its a catchable ball

 

Absolutely. Listen, there's no 1 reason were losing. Ben is an issue at times, our WR's are issues at times, our defence is almost always an issue, etc. The biggest issue I think is drafting and/or player development. Going back to 2008, there's 4 players on this team that belong. Pouncey, Decastro, Bell and Brown. Everyone else could leave tomorrow and we really wouldn't miss them. 4 players from all those drafts is the biggest reason we aren't a contender. That's just unacceptable

 

True, but you can't get them all right all the time. Look at the other 31 teams, Steelers have the most titles...Ben should have 3 because I think 2010 was his last chance :/

 

Johnson whiffed on a block was the difference between victory and defeat. JMHO.

 

Flacco still folds under any considerable pressure. The Ravens beat the Saints because they ran the ball well including big runs not just 5-6 yards and they made a goal line stand and had one big play on defense, the pick 6. Flacco had little to nothing to do with that win.

Also look at the career of Ben vs. Flacco and you will see Ben's stats are far superior to Flacco. Ben's stats are even better through the first 5-6 years of his career compared to Flacco even with more friendly passing and QB rules that Flacco has had. Flacco is living off one (albeit very good) good playoff run.

 

Look - I am all for giving some criticism to Ben, but Ben is average? Really. If Ben continues his "average"play in 3-4 years he will be in the Top 10 all time in yards and touchdowns. He is already in the Top 10 in QB rating along with Brees, Manning, Rodgers, and Brady. He is only behind Brady and Manning in game winning drives as well. He had a crummy game against the Saints, he is not as consistent as Brady, Rodgers, etc. - but he isn't average.

 

Flacco wins, but so did Dilfer, so did Bob Griese. I still think Flacco is an okay qb at best. I actually think Baltimore is a prime example of a well coached and managed team as compared the Steelers the past 5 years. Flacco has only one season with a QB rating over 90 in his first 6 seasons. Ben has played 10 full seasons and has two seasons with a sub 90 QB rating. One of those seasons was the year of the motorcycle crash and appendectomy where he had +90 QB rating in the second half where he was mostly healthy and the other is the season where they won the SB in 08 when Ben played a portion of that season being injured and had a 3-4 game period where he sucked.

 

I'm not saying Flacco is better than Ben. I'm just saying, there's something to be said for a guy that seems to be able to do enough to win regardless of his stats. Ben was once that guy. His stats weren't always the best, but he truly was a winner. Even if he only made one great play all game, it was with seconds left to get the come from behind win. That just doesn't happen anymore. Now it seems he throws a pick to end games.