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Just how talented are the Browns?

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by Stone, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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    I get a kick out of the articles I read and the talk I hear about "the immense talent level of the Browns". I just don't get it! Immense for the Browns ....yes; immense for the league.......:roflmao:

    Remove "Cleveland" from the equation. Remove ownership. Remove culture, Remove coaching. Remove leadership. Remove history. Remove everything that makes the Browns the Browns and look strictly at talent.

    1. They have a handful of possible elite level players in Chubb, Garrett, Landry, and OBJ. Chubb was a rookie, and Garrett and OBJ are headcases.
    2. They have a couple quality level players in Schobert and Ward.
    3. They have a QB who could be good or could be Johnny Manziel the second.

    Name me three teams in the NFL who don't have a handful of possible elite players and a couple quality players?
     
  2. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Media trying to create & eat up a worst to first story. Browns won't cooperate...:roflmao:

    7-9
    battling Cincy for third in the AFCN
    That's their ceiling but is improvement...:roflmao:
     
  3. AskQuestionsLater

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  4. Blitz

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    YEAH! Remove everything!!

    Remove the colors on their uniforms! Remove the schemes and playcalling styles and team philosophies. Pool all the players together and divide them back out in to 32 teams of 52 random players.

    Then name me 3 of those teams that don't football.

    You can't. It's crazy.

    Sorry for this bit. Things get weird in the offseason
     
  5. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Three teams that don't football in your scenario due to ownership with any players or scheme:

    1. Browns (they win hands down)
    2. Tampa Bay (changing direction every two-three years)
    3. Bengals (Mike Brown, enough said)
     
  6. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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    In the off season last year I explained to many of my friends who are Browns fans that even "if" they were loaded with talent there are 5 other key factors, IMHO.

    1. Ownership .......Browns score a zero
    2. Management.....Browns score a one (this was for Dorsey)
    3. Coaching......Browns score a zero
    4. Leadership......Browns score a zero
    5. Culture......Browns score a zero

    I won every single Browns bet I made:drinks:of course that isn't saying much. It's like betting a nine year old that his dad is a douche.
     
  7. Diamond

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  9. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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  10. The Glory Days

    The Glory Days Well-Known Member

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    I think those articles are talking about singing and dancing. ;)
     
  11. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    I had to laugh that Robinson offered to pay the Uber driver to claim that the 157 lbs of weed was his.
    That is enough weed to land you in jail for 20 years. I don't know if Michael Bloomberg would have enough money to pay you to sit in prison for the next decade or two.
     
  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    Andrew Thomas it is. Cannot say I am surprised. Most technically sound in the class. Jedrick Willis is not a bad consolation prize.
     
  13. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Visited the Browns forum today. They are arguing about if Ben is fat. One of their top threads. :roflmao:

    Edit: they are also calling their above ground cesspool a lake.
     
  14. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    My goodness people, the Ravens are the team to beat in the AFC north.
    We need to be able to beat /be better than the Ravens.
     
  15. Roonatic

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    Agree. But when I am down & feel worthless, I like to visit Browns sites to put things in perspective.
     

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