1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.

Juju's suspension upheld

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

    5,371
    169
    May 9, 2012
    Will miss game against raven's
     
  2. SteelHack

    SteelHack Well-Known Member

    1,536
    86
    Oct 21, 2011
  3. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

    5,371
    169
    May 9, 2012
    Shoulder to shoulder and no taunting

    Hmmmm
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. SteelHack

    SteelHack Well-Known Member

    1,536
    86
    Oct 21, 2011
    I think his helmet hits him right in the facemask. So taunting is why he was suspended? Ill keep that in mind watching games the rest of the season...LOL

    HACK
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. CanadianSteel

    CanadianSteel Well-Known Member

    895
    61
    Oct 24, 2011
    The league is a joke. These decisions are laughable. Despite all of the prior evidence against levying a suspension. They don’t care about consistency and their appeal process is even more of a joke.
     
  6. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

    7,514
    399
    Oct 18, 2011
    :bscow:
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  7. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

    143
    10
    Oct 9, 2017
    juju should take the Zeke route and file and injunction in the courts. There are no less than 1,000 videos out there of helmet to helmet hits that were waived off. Compare Kiko Alonzo’s hit to Juju’s and take it to a court. What does Alonzo and Gronk have in common that Juju and George don’t? The NFL reminds me of the judicial system in the US.
     
  8. WinTheNorth

    WinTheNorth Well-Known Member

    458
    50
    Oct 16, 2011
    I think the combination of the hit and the taunt gives them grounds. Given the nature of the game/history I think the league was within it's rights to do it. Not judging it relative to other incidents but on it's own "merits"....

    The kid should not have taunted.

    Also, i'm glad it came down quickly... much rather he be suspended for this game and be around for the pats. I just hope gronk appeals and it gets dragged out :-D
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

    883
    34
    Dec 18, 2016
    Gronkowski's appeal was denied today, too.

    And no, the taunting did not give the league grounds. The league hasn't suspended player for taunting and there are plenty of hits worse than what Smith-Schuster did that don't draw a suspension, especially for a first-time offender.This is all about finding a scapegoat for a game that gave the league bad publicity. Somebody from each team had to get a suspension, so the league ignored precedent to suspend Smith-Schuster.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  10. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82

    7,213
    432
    Oct 17, 2011
    This is basically it.

    The game was full of ill-feeling, just like these match-ups always are. It was raining, so the passing game (remember, folks, this is why people watch the game, according to the NFL) was inconsistent and generally sloppy on both sides. All in all, the game was just plain ugly, and for a primetime game, that was embarrassing for the league.

    Trying to be as objective as possible, I'd say that a fine was entirely justifiable. But a suspension is heavy-handed, and seems to be wrapped up in the negative attention the game is receiving.
     
  11. uncblue012

    uncblue012 Well-Known Member

    981
    63
    Aug 11, 2017
    The NFL is such a joke. This is getting so old and honestly, out of control. The league needs to answer for its actions and stop blaming others -- ESPECIALLY A FREAKING 21-year-old.
     
  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

    15,454
    470
    Oct 22, 2011
    absolutely no balance in the way penalties are called and fines are levied in this league. it's really a joke that the refs can dictate games this way. :cool:
     
  13. coldrolled

    coldrolled Well-Known Member

    319
    20
    Dec 1, 2014
    Hopefully he keeps blocking like he has. This could ruin his game.
     
  14. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin

    20,896
    1,058
    Oct 12, 2011
    No surprise here. Nice to see they gave it due consideration.

    "I'll be appealin.."

    "Appeal denied".
     
  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856

    5,008
    710
    Oct 26, 2011
    Merrill Hoge was on DVE this morning explaining all 3 hits, the rules, the reasoning for the rules and the reason why all 3 are 1 game suspensions. His explanation of the rules was more than I could memorize, but when he was done he said the suspensions were correct. He knows more than I do so I'll take his word.
     
  16. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

    6,302
    590
    Oct 19, 2011
    This has nothing to do with the rules or particulars of the hit. This was a message to the Bengals and Steelers to get it under control. They were never going to lift it it
     
  17. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT Well-Known Member

    956
    146
    Dec 14, 2015
    Which makes you wonder why they keep airing Thursday Night Football ...
     
  18. WinTheNorth

    WinTheNorth Well-Known Member

    458
    50
    Oct 16, 2011
    As much as a like catching the TNF game occasionally, I think it's bad for the overall product and player safety ( :beathorse: )
     
  19. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

    741
    26
    Oct 23, 2011
    Juju was wrong. I think the league saw the INTENT to hurt or injure another player. It went way beyond a block. Juju emphasized that by standing over him. Juju was in a similar situation later in the game. As a result of what happened after the hit on Burfict, Juju didn't deliver the same aggression on the block/hit. He didn't need a full force hit to deliver an effective block

    The league is trying to limit and take away the bone crushing hits. No one wants to see players injured, paralyzed, or possibly killed as a result of those hits.
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    22,267
    1,015
    Oct 16, 2011
    So then why lift Ilokas suspension? League doesnt care about player safety, they care about their brand, image is all that matters to them.

    A guy standing over a player that he just crushed looks bad for them now. A decade ago that hit would have been glorified, packaged and used to sell their product.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  21. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

    741
    26
    Oct 23, 2011
    For me this boils down to intent vs non intent.

    The plays were completely different. The Ilokas play was a bang bang play that happened quickly. I believe Ilokas intent was different than Juju's intent.

    Juju didn't need to hit Burfict the way he did. On top of a blindside hit Juju taunted which enhanced the idea of intent. He could had delivered a much less vicious hit/block on Burfict. Similar to the hit he delivered later in the game.

    The league is a different place today than it was a decade ago.

    The NFL legal system is broken just like the American legal system. The best way to avoid the punishments of both systems is to try and not get caught up into being judged.
     
  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    22,267
    1,015
    Oct 16, 2011
    I hope JuJu keeps delivering those punishing blocks. The moment a player starts thinking about holding up, they give their opponent a chance to make a play. Like Jackson not pushing Bell out of bounds as he danced by for a TD.

    If JuJu doesnt taunt, that might not have even been called a penalty and no way its a suspension.

    The taunt got him in trouble.
     
  23. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

    6,302
    590
    Oct 19, 2011
    Disagree Iloka had the intent to separate the ball from brown by leveling him he knew it would be a violent hit and potentially to the head, he did it anyway.
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2017
    • Agree Agree x 2
  24. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

    6,302
    590
    Oct 19, 2011
    Or steps away slightly and faces the crowd
     
  25. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

    143
    10
    Oct 9, 2017
    I guess Julio jones’ hit the head and subsequent muscle flex didn’t hurt the Vikings player he hit. I’m not saying Juju wasn’t wrong, he was but it has to be equal treatment.
     

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!