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Jets Not Breaking the Bank for Le'Veon

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mcam, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    No, I'm looking at his 2018 season.
     
  2. Blast Furnace

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  3. Blast Furnace

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    Could be that PPF and Pro Football Reference has a different definition of what a TFL is.

    PPF is: Defensive Stops - tackles that constitute a "loss" for the offense.
     
  4. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I know, I looked at that. Thats why I said PPF may have a different definition. According to their stats, he has 33 stops for the year and 137 career.
     
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  7. MeanJoeBlue

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    Every site that uses the official NFL stats (including PFR) has VW with 8. So we just need to find out how the NFL game statisticians define a TFL.
    (I mean that literally. I cannot find how they define a TFL. Is it only running plays, or does it include sacks?)
     
  8. Steel_Elvis

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    Blast, there’s zero chance that VW has 137 career TFLs. Where are you getting that info?
     
  9. Blast Furnace

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    Pro Football Focus. Its defensive stops but by their definition its what constitutes as a loss for the offense.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    Im thinking everyone else is probably going by tackles in the backfield.
     
  11. Steel_Elvis

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    Yeah, it’s a PFF definition. A PFF “stop” isn’t a loss of yards. It’s when the offense fails to get at least 40% of the of the line to gain on 1st down, less than 50% on second down, and fails to convert on 3rd or 4th down. So that means tackling a guy for a gain of 3 yards on 1st and 10 is a “stop” because the offense only picked up 30% of the line to gain.

    A TFL is a tackle for a loss of yardage.
     
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  12. jeh1856

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    I’m thinking any trade including Brown should include his pro-rated signing bonus of $7.6mm, or AB should have to pay it back.

    This is all the more reason why paying Bell a big upfront chunk would be a bad idea.
     
  13. Steel_Elvis

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    I’m pretty certain that NFL cap rules won’t allow the team to transfer any of his prorated bonus dollars for cap purposes. I also doubt that the team has a claim under the CBA to push for a payback of bonus dollars. I don’t even think it’s worth trying to negotiate that with zero leverage.

    Agree on Bell. I don’t want him back at all, never mind giving him a lot of up front guaranteed dollars.
     
  14. mcam

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