Jabrill Peppers = Jeremy Cash 2.0

Now the CB/S versatility is something that is different to me, when compared to the LB/S hybrids, but that's my take on it. I like those CB/S guys like Eric Rowe too, as well as Quentin Rollins etc. You could put Iowa's Desmond King in that class for this year. The CB and S position are more comparable for player size and athleticism. I think the disparity between LB and S is much bigger which further muddies the water for a player that falls in between the two positions.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I am not against those LB/S players, but I am questioning whether Butler can utilize that talent or develop a role for them. I'm sure he could but I don't think its an avenue he wants to go down.

 

My thoughts exactly. I am all about speed, but we saw how Shazier struggled until he put on added weight to handle OL. Same can be said for an in the box safety at the LOS. It is a mismatch that OL will always win. Lets stay with a traditional safety/CB. Thats why when I look for OLB/Edge rusher I am looking for some one heavier than 230, they will never succeed going up against a 325 lb T. Lets start with an OLB at 250 with speed. Or Bud Dupree size

 

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Well done Turtle. Well done.


To add to Turtle's statement, here is a quote from markberger.com about a player who was similarly criticised during the draft process;



"Troy Polamalu (USC, 5-10, 206) According to both the BLESTO and National scouting combines, Polamalu is the top senior safety prospect in the 2003 draft. MVP of his team last year. Ran an amazing 4.35-40 and vertical jumped 43" at his "Pro day" workout, but isn't considered very good in coverage. Is short by NFL standards and he has a history of injuries (i.e., 2003 Orange Bowl). Late 1st -early 2nd round."




Why is this story so familiar via the bolded? Granted, as big a Troy supporter I am, many Steelers fans have told me that Troy's first year was quite the disaster; some even wanting Troy to be traded. All it toom was a defensive coordinator chamge and some defensive tweaks and Troy was off to the races.



Getting back to Jabrill... I can say this for certain; who knows what his combine numbers are going to be, never mind his pro day? Furthermore, can Butler really use Peppers akin to what LeBeau did for Troy?



As it stands.. I myself, am uncertain. Besides, if someone like Takkarist Mckinley or even Hasson Reddick appear at 30 with Peppers somehow there... that could create quite the bevy of discussion in the war room.

 

troy could run a 4.35 40. big difference.

 

Ive never seen Peppers cover an WR. Ive seen him stand infront of one at the line of scrimmage but never seen him cover anyone. Lol

 

He could actually cover too. Lol

 

Are you implying Jabrill cannot?

 

When he got accustomed to the new scheme under LeBeau.

 

no i don't think he will nor does he have the ability troy had.

 

Troy was not good at coverage as much either at USC.


As for your comment about Jabrill not being able to run sub 4.3 speed.. we shall see soon enough yet.

 

He didn't cover much in College because he wasn't required to ...We need help in all 3 positions that he played in College ...He has the skill to play any and all 3 of those positions in the NFL ...His best fit is probably the single LB in the 4-1-6 and 5-1-5 types of Defenses that are really the future of the NFL...

He has the speed and Athletic ability to play RB'S and TE'S in the passing game...If he is available and we pass on him , I think that will be a huge mistake...

 

not close. 4.47 not bad but the coverage is not there so far. lb .... very small for that. 4-3 backer may be his spot.

 

Did not watch. I assume those are his combine results?

 

He measured 5-11 213, forget any talk about peppers being an NFL linebacker, some question where he fits and question whether he can be a true safety, I wouldnt spend a first round pick on him....

 

then you have obi at 6-4 224 with really good ball skills, running a 4.46 same as peppers. talking about a guy you can move around. pretty impressive.

 

His range and versatility to boot.



Would not be upset if he is the last option Pittsburgh has on the table.

 

If you guys want the STs value/versatility that is there with Peppers, why not target Adoree Jackson? You know where he is playing in the NFL.... CB. There's no hybrid talk, he is a CB all the way and can do returns. Don't know about 1:30 but in the 2nd if he's there

 

Adoree could be in play for us in round one should all options be gone by then.


Versatility is the name of the game these days. Besides, Jackson kills two birds with one stone in the facet of cornerback and kick/punt returning.

 

Peppers won't be around at the 30th spot. Too much upside to let him get to that point

 

then obi followed that 4.46 with a 4.40. thats moving for a man his size.

 

All that remains is that all important three cone and short shuttle drills. Those will come on his pro day. Should he score well.... he is round one without question.

 

Not implying.. he cant. 27 targets.. 20 receptions.