It seems I Valued him to high

Wallace got no offers ,so it seems I was wrong to think Teams would go after him......I guess this gives the Team mad leverage,but if Wallace plays hard ball then we may trade him away for a lot less in the end...

Now my hope is he signs and we at least get 1 more year of service,I am sure the Steelers have put a fair offer on the table and now they really won't budge IMO......So Wallace time to play ball you are not Fitz yet and the money is not there anywhere....

 

I don't think it was a "value" issue. I think teams would give a first rounder for him. The problem was how HE valued himself. As soon as the first team heard that he wanted Fitzgerald type money, that shut down the whole thing.......

 

Well I see what you are saying,but the offer sheet could have been a dime if a Team really wanted him.....I guess his statement and a 1st. rounder was just to much....

 

Here is what most likely will happen......STEELERS will sign "The Diva" for about 3M cus nobody wants him at his asking price. Which is just outrages.Than trade him for a 2-3 round pick next year....You heard it here first....Can anyone say Holmes???

 

well... he could sit out... and cement the perception that he is an egomaniac...
Or.. he could play lights out, and fight for every ball that is thrown his way, to try and get a bigger contract from someone else in `13...
Or....
He could play well for us, and accept that he will get his money from a team that has a good chance to get to the Superbowl, every year, and will pay him, when they can afford it...
Hard to tell where his head is, at this point, and what the front office has been offering at this point...
I know what I have read, about Colbert, saying "we want to keep him"...
But I don`t know what he has been offered, or what the front office has said to him behind closed doors...
Obviously, other teams are`nt beating down his door, like he thought they would, or his agent told him, they would...
I would like to see him signed to a long term contract at a fair price, as I`m sure the organization, would...
But, If he wants mad money to play here, I wouldn`t criticize the Rooney`s for letting someone else pay him...

 

Hes too one dimensional for the majority of the teams to offer him big money and a 1 st rounder. Hes a threat but only a deep one and hes soft.

 

His biggest downfall is he does not go up and get the ball. If he does not run by people or is wide open he does not catch it. Just like the Broncos game where if he catches that pass we probably walk away with a big win. He drops an easy catch for an NFL WR. You do not see 100 million dollar players do that. If they do drop one they come back and make a great play later to make up for it. Not disapear.

I am glad he is staying for 2.__ million.

5-6 million a year would probably be fair to both him and the team. He is not as good a WR as Desean Jackson. He is a better teammate then him.

 

Stevie Johnson just got $36M for 5 yrs. I don't see Wallace taking less than that. And I think most everyone would agree that Wallace is clearly the superior WR. I suspect he takes the $2.xM for 2012, then, he's off to test the market in 2013. And I'm sure then that he pulls in far more that $5-6M/yr. We'll know by Sept if the Steelers are interested in signing him long term.

 

I think that Wallace's future will depend on what he wants and Sanders' play. An offense needs two good receivers with solid backups along with a running game. If too much money is put into one guy that balance cannot be maintained. With the Cotchery signing the Steelers have four good receivers. If Sanders' and Cotchery's value drop, Wallace will get a larger offer. The Cotchery signing was to cover for 2013. Look for a receiver to be drafted rounds four to six. Grisham and Lyons are backups at best.

 

Tribune Review reported that there are 3 teams talking to the Steelers about a trade now. I'm thinking they'll take one of those deals.

 

Frankly, this would be a much better option for the Steelers than if a team had snapped him up this year. If he'd been picked up as a RFA, we'd only get one pick, probably very late in the 1st. If we orchestrate a trade, we can get more than one pick and/or a future first rounder. I don't know why teams devalue future picks so much. I guess they all think they are one player away from a SB win -- but even teams like Carolina and Oakland do it. They basically consider a 2013 1st rounder the same value as a 2012 2nd rounder. Crazy, but true. And any team would take Wallace for a 2nd rounder. So we just need to find one of those teams and we can probably get him for a 2013 1st rounder (which could easily be in the top 15 or better if we get the right team -- remember teams like Minnesota and St. Louis were interested but couldn't give up a top 5 pick) and maybe a 2012 2nd or 3rd.

I'm a Wallace supporter because I think the hatred for him here is completely unfounded, but for a 2013 1st and 2012 2nd, I'd be all over it. He might well be worth it, but with Sanders and Brown not only being great players but needing to be paid soon, and Cotchery signed, and our other needs like OL, it'd be a smart trade.

 

I'm actually a Wallace fan as well - but it's not difficult to see the writing on the wall. IF his signs his tender, we're getting him for one year and he's more than likely gone. The Steelers may as well get value for him now rather than just let him go next year.

 

None of the 42 restricted free agents this offseason were made offers. Perhaps the 1st rounder and having to sign a player is just too steep for teams.

 

I'm not a Wallace fan. If he didn't have 4.25 speed he wouldn't even be in the NFL.

Hey, Mike, 32 NFL teams could not have been wrong. You ain't as good as you think you are!

Larry Fitzgerald?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

there is a path between the owners after the new cba , they don't touch the rfa

 

The things you are saying are stupid.

 

He's worth more than the tender. And who knows what is going on behind closed doors. On one hand I can appreciate Mike wanting more money and on the other hand if you are going to threaten your boss by sitting out, then I would tend to say seeya. This could end up badly for Wallace.

 

Do you think Wallace is on par with Fitz? If so, I'm gonna have to call BS on that.

 

I was mostly referring to the other two pieces of idiocy (and I mean really, really, really idiotic statements), but I also find it stupid that everyone takes alleged talk during contract negotiations as absolute fact, and let it affect their feelings so much. It's stupid, in the literal sense of the word. It's just stupid. He wants as much money as Larry FitzGerald? Get rid of him!!!! Good lord, everybody wants to be the highest paid player in the league. Is it that people around here literally don't understand how negotiating works?

Oh, and Willie Colon is NOT going to restructure his contract. He said so on the radio. I say cut him.

 

I haven't heard anything from Colon lately (not sure if you are just being a smartass) but we have been down that road with him before and he can't stay healthy. Not sure what he is supposed to get this year but I'm sure its too much.

 

I was, in fact, being a smartass. People on this board were livid over the fact that Colon said on the radio that he would not restructure his contract to help the team reduce the cap, despite the fact he's missed basically two years. He resturctured a few days later. Imagine that.

 

Negotiations work by setting a market, I think Megatron is the highest now? Then everyone else gets paid in comparison to that. Unless of course you are better. Wallace is not. He'll get a contract befitting of his skill set. His agent should come up with a number that is higher then what he deserves but not so high that teams won't even try to make a counter offer. By putting it out there that he wants Fitz money, he's just hurting his options. If I was his agent, Id tell him to shut up and let me do my job.[/quote:373yjx32]
How many teams do you think were about to call him and then stopped when they read that quote online? "Ah, forget it, it says here he wants Larry money..." I'm gonna guess exactly zero. What someone says in the media and what goes on in negotiations could be completely different. Unless he/his agent actually turned down teams because it wasn't Larry money, judging him on it is baseless. The most you can do is judge his personality, which I'm all for. I'm sure he does want that money. Does he think he deserves it? Maybe. Does he think he'll really get it? I doubt it. Either he doesn't or he's delusional, which everyone around here seems to think. Does he think by aiming for the moon he will land among the stars? That seems more likely to me. Or maybe he's crazy. But I haven't seen any evidence of that so far in his young career.

 

Precisely.

Think of it this way. Whatever his actual talent, he's ranked in a club of "top NFL receviers" which include around 10 or 20 guys in the world. None of them got there by saying "well, erm, I guess I'm ok... maybe that guy below me on the roster is a bit better if you threw it to him more... who knows?" When I hear Wallace's strangely over-confident claims, all I hear is someone talking themselves up, setting their sights high, as folks jostling for position at the top the pyramid often do.

 

I hear what you guys are saying. Personally I like to see guys that are good at what they do just go about their jobs and keep their mouths shut. You can be darned good at what you do and not act like an entitled arrogant douche. Sure Wallace is good. But obviously not as good as he believes he is. Acting like you are bigger than the team pisses people off (whether he really believes it or not). And that is how he is coming off as an entitled punk who thinks higher of himself and his abilities than the rest of the league and most fans. And that kind of perception can be detrimental to a lockerroom and to a mans career - just ask T.O. Wallace should wake up and smell the proverbial coffee and see what is happening right in his own backyard with A. Brown. The two guys have different physical strengths but the fans seem to love Brown more than Wallace because of his good attitude and work ethic as well as the fact that he doesn't seem to be a chest thumping egomaniac (yet). And I hope he doesn't get that way. Don't get me wrong, I like Wallace and what he brings and has contributed, but I darned sure don't want a diva with an overinflated view of what he really contributes poisoning the well.