Is there a worst group of OLBs in the league

Jones, Harrison, Chickillo and Moats has to be the worst group of OLBs in the league right now. I can actually say that it's the worst the Steelers had fielded in all the years that I've been a steelers fan. I'm no statistician, but if someone want to look up our group of just OLBs over the last 10 years and see if there was a worst group.

Porter, Haggans
Porter, Woodley
Harrison, Woodley
Lloyd, Greene
Worilds, Harrison

 

Cleveland's but that one is a gimme... Indianapolis the same..



One might be able place Oakland's on the list given Khalil Mack's disappointing stat line thus far at only 2 sacks with two weeks left until the midway point. If accounting for talent then the silver and black is exempt.




My issue is not the linebackers but how Keith Butler really believes this team has two good enough bookend linebackers to constantly send four in spite of the results.....



.... that and the lack of execution or fundementals of the defense has a whole.

 

I wonder what Cleveland, Indianapolis and Oakland stats are on OLBs? Sacks, pressures, hits on the quarterback compared to our 4. Our 4 OLBs have 2 sacks. You can check that data but I believe it's Moats and Chick. And Moats wasn't even rushing on his sack.

That's why I recommend putting in another linemen and taking one of the OLBs off the field. I know it will hamper some quickness in the flats but they are not getting to the quarterback anyway. Tuitt, Hargraves, McCullers and Harrison would be my front four. Rotate Harrsion with the rest of the OLB group.

 

I'd be hard pressed to name a weaker group of edge rushers

 

Okay. Here you go (courtesy of sporting charts) :


Pittsburgh's:


Sacks: 8

Hits: ?

Pressures: 17



Indianapolis:


Sacks: 8

Hits: ?

Pressures: 12


Oakland's:


Sacks: 8

Hits: ?

Pressures: 18


Cleveland's:


Sacks: 9

Hits: ?

Pressures: 18



Got you two of three. Could not get you the hits due to the fact that I do not have PFF Premium.

 

I wonder if that is team totals or just OLBs?

 

Team totals that I could find based on players. Best bet for more accuracy would be PFF Premium as sporting charts only showcased 200 players who have recorded pressures.


To get the results you see above, simple addition. For the OLB's statement.. the only comparable ones then are Oakland and Indy given that Cleveland runs a base 4-3 using the Nickel defense.

 

Well, it's no wonder, the DC never does anything to help the edge rusher LB's get to the QB.

I think if the DC would scheme some looks it would help to beat the Patsys this week.

If I was a DC, I would show Brady a Double A-Gap Blitz all day, that would collapse all the blocking toward the center of the line, and open up room for the edge guys to get to Brady.

Brady doesn't like to get hit at all because his long lean frame can't take it. A Double A-Gap look is gonna mess with his head, and he will point it our to the line everytime.

If the Steeler defense shows a Double A-Gap Blitz and brings the corners up on press coverage, then use one safety to cover any WR that shakes loose, and use the other safety to watch Gronkowski, Brady will look for Gronkowski, or audible to a run. I'd use Gilbert as the safety to cover Gronk because Gilbert is a big body.

Brady's only option would then be LeGarrett Blount RB.

I think thats what the Pats have planned for Landry Jones, he gets rattled by pressure and hits too.
The Pats will probably show Double A-Gap Blitz, put their corners in press, bring one safety in press on Jesse James, and use the other safety to double AB. That means Landry is going to have to beat the Pats by hitting the Steelers other WR in single coverage. Brady can do that, Jones can't.

The Pats will probably have more success because their edge rusher LB's can beat the Steeler OT's easier than the Steelers can beat the Pats OT's.

 

To be fair they were expecting Dupree to be their #1 OLB, the rest of the group is weak.

 

Kinda says it all.

Vince Williams 2 sacks
Jarvis Jones - 0 sacks.
Arthur Moats - 1 1/2 sacks
James Harrison - 0 sacks
Ryan Shazier 0 sacks
Anthony Chickillo 1 sack

5 of the team's 8 sacks are from Williams and Heyward. With those two out it's tough.

 

J.J. is a big part of the problem. The numbers don't lie.

Joey Porter - 30.5 sacks in his first 4 seasons.
Greg Lloyd - 20 sacks in his first 4 seasons.
Mike Merriweather - 19.5 sacks in his first 4 seasons.
Jason Gilden - 17 sacks in his first 4 seasons.
*Jarvis Jones - 5 sacks so far in his 4 seasons.
James Harrison - 4 sacks in his first 4 seasons.


Harrison was an undrafted free agent and a late bloomer. Jarvis was a 1st round pick and should at least be in the ball park with the 4 names above him and he isn't even close.

 

Joey Porter never played with Woodley. Just sayin'.