Is The NFL ruined or just negatively affected?

You didn't get paid to do it. In other words, it wasn't your JOB.

 

Employers can't make anything part of the job.

 

*SIGH*

 

A Mark Twain quote comes to mind.

 

The right to free speech does not apply on company time. That is a right that is protected from government intervention. You have absolutely no right to free speech while at work.

 

That depends on how you view free speech. If you think that free speech means you can say whatever you want whenever you want, well, that is not protected. Some speech is protected, even at work, and some isn't.

If you feel that you should not have to stand for the national anthem but the sports company you work for says that you have to, that is going to be challenged in the courts. And the NFL is going to lose.

Everyone talks at work, they talk about what they did for the weekends, they talk about their kids, they talk about sports, they talk about hobbies, camping, vacations, food, and whatever. Name one employee of any company who never, ever, said something that wasn't corporate sponsored and approved. Out of many billions of employees. Just name one who only spoke the corporate approved slogans.

 

And there's always one employee who takes offense at what's being said. I worked for 12 years with the Grand-high-exalted-Poobah of the perpetually butt-hurt. Even if the conversation or joke she overheard wasn't sexual, she'd want to know if it was sexual harassment! She would never talk to you about it, she'd just automatically put a call in to HR!
Anyway, the issue is not, and never has been about what the Krapyerdicks of the world discuss in their cubicle. It's about what they say or do in the public forum!

 

I was in the Navy during the Tailhook Incident. The Navy cracked down on sexual harassment towards women. We had to sit through a lot of training. Where I worked at the time we didn't have women in my shop but there were Navy and civilian women in the other shops nearby.

One time this guy brought in a Playboy magazine, we all looked at it then it ended up on the supervisor's desk. Later, I had to fix something so I was sitting at another desk looking the component up in our books when a civilian lady (probably a lesbian) walked in and lazily made her way deeper into the shop. I turned and noticed the Playboy still on the supervisor's desk, the lady was inside our shop at that time, so I went and put the Playboy inside the desk drawer. Well, she had gotten the supervisor and brought him out to his desk and she noticed the Playboy wasn't there so she vigorously searched the desk until she found the magazine and she slammed it on the desktop and said "What about this!" As if we were Russian and she had found Capitalist propoganda. The supervisor laughed at her and told her she could look at it if she wanted to. She was upset and tried to claim that having it at work was sexual harassment but she didn't take it any farther than the supervisor.

People want to force their ideas and love for symbols on others. There are many US flags, so what if knuckleheads want to burn them, first he has to go to a store and pay $15 for it, then burn it in the street. That's like burning their own money. I could go into business in Iran selling US and Israeli flags. I'll be rich.

The national anthem is just a song. Neither the flag or anthem have ever done a thing for the country. People are the country, not tunes or dyed cloth.

 

Freedom of speech protects you from the GOVERNMENT not from your employer.

 

What if the employer frequently uses racist insults and you tell him to "Please stop saying those things" and he fires you for that?

What if the employer says that you have to vote for a certain candidate and you tell him "I hate that candidate," and he fires you?

What if the employer tells only the women that they can't talk at work but he allows the men to talk at work and then two women are caught talking and they are fired for it?

 

Chicks, man...…….!

 

June 6, 1944. D-Day. The greatest day of sacrifice for freedom the world has ever known!

This, among many other examples of great sacrifice, is why I stand for our National Anthem!

 

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say what you want without any repercussions. It protects you from being thrown in jail by the government. I could walk into my bosses office and tell him that he's a worthless turd that should be flushed out of the company today if I want. I won't be arrested or thrown in jail for it, but I'll lose my job. I have a RIGHT to say it, but that doesn't protect me from punishment by my employer. It makes me laugh that people still think that our 1st amendment means you can just say whatever you want, where ever you want and ANY negative affects is a violation of your rights.

The whole deal with kneeling for the flag has gotten to a point that nobody even really understands what they're doing. Why hasn't someone asked "What do you want to see change to make you stand?" The players are hurting themselves. I know a ton of people that have stopped watching and going to games. If there is a cause these players want to support, do it, but not on business time.

As for the question, right now the NFL has been negatively affected, but that is turning into long term damage very quickly. Now the whole helmet rule is pissing people off too. I see dark days ahead for the NFL.

 

There are discrimination laws on the book that apply for almost all of these. But again, learn what the 1st Amendment protects and doesn't. The first amendment is a personal protection from being punished by the government. Meaning jailed, fined, etc. The 1st Amendment does NOT protect you from being fired from your job, or suspended.