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Is keeping Wallace possible?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelerJJ, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. SteelerJJ

    SteelerJJ Well-Known Member

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  2. Steeldefense08

    Steeldefense08 Well-Known Member

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    Article says he is a top 5 WR in the league. Not the 2nd half of the season he wasnt. Mike is good but if he decides to leave, we will survive.

    Also says Wallace leads the team in reception which is true BUT

    Wallace - 1193yds
    Brown - 1108 yds
     
  3. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    After the fire sale, we will have a lot more space. Wallace has a lot of upside mainly to his young age and he is a good player when he wants to be.
     
  4. truckin9999

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    The 4 teams they list , that can throw an offer out there is interesting.
    Jags would give up the #7 pick.
    Skins would give up the #6 pick.
    Titans would give up the #20 pick.
    Bengals would give up the #21 pick. I can really see this one happening, just because the Bengals have alot more cap room then the Steelers.

    Steelers have the #24 pick.
     
  5. Steeldefense08

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    Its funny how players leave for bigger $$$ and they end up sucking or lose playing time.
     
  6. snipit73

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    It's also funny how some players STAY and sign fat contracts and suck also!
     
  7. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    This is what i have been saying. Wallace is gone the 85% rule goes into effect next year and a lot of teams have a lot if money to spend. Also i think if we did work out signing wallace brown would be gone next year and brown is more valuable then wallace.
     
  8. mrn6

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    Can you please tell me, who is going to replace Wallace if he leaves? Brown can't do it alone. Sanders can't stay healthy. So that leaves you with Miller and Cothchery..that won't cut it.
     
  9. JackAttack 5958

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    I may be in the minority here, but losing Wallace AND picking up a first round draft pick would not be the end of the world. In fact, Wallace lived up to the monicker "one-trick pony" given to him by Tomlin the second half of the season.

    MIKE WALLACE = WILLIE GAULT
     
  10. colsteveaustin

    colsteveaustin Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure about Wallace? We need WR'S that can stretch the field.We also need WR'S that play in the second half of the season. I just don't know???
     
  11. mdbates2

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    That's the key - if Wallace goes - we get another pick in the first round. If Sanders can stay healthy, we can win with Brown, and the rest of the receivers. Also, there always seems to be someone who falls to us in the draft - or an UFA who ends up making the team. I love Wallace - but as the Steelers have proven year after year, there is no one who is irreplaceable. I have no doubt the Steelers organization will field a competitive, exciting team next year. Time will tell who will be on that team.
     
  12. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Steelers could get by without Wallace and Mendy if they finally fix the offensive line.
     
  13. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    If they get a first round pick for Wallace I say use both first rounders in April for Offensive Linemen. I think there's a decent class coming out this year.
     
  14. NickSteel

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    Honestly, I would almost rather end up with an extra first round pick than bring Wallace back. Don't get me wrong, I think Wallace is great and has a lot of good football ahead of him, but to me we are very strong at WR and could afford to lose him. Just think how we could shore up our Oline with 2 first rounders that aren't at the very end of the round. I also think he is not the best receiver on our team, and Brown is more complete. Sanders is no slouch either.

    Even without Wallace I would say a receiving corps of Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, Ward (at a reduced price tag) is better than anything Ben enjoyed for most of his career. Everyone remember the Cedric Wilson, Randle El days? We don't need stud receivers to succeed. Back then we had a great Oline, and our offense was more consistently successful. Ben may not have put up as many big numbers, but really no one gave a crap.Give a QB enough time and any WR can get open. I submit that we would ultimately be a better team dropping Wallace and hitting on a good Guard or Tackle or two in the first round. Now of course Wallace is a known quantity and first round draft picks are not sure things so it could also end up blowing up in our face.

    Basically my main point is I would not be unhappy were this to happen. I also would not be unhappy to keep him.
     
  15. ThrowToHeath

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    We scored more points when Hines Ward started and was a part of the offense thatn we did with the "young money" guys during the second half of the season and playoffs.
     
  16. BobbyBiz

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    :good:
     
  17. Cbus Steelers

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    I agree about Brown being more complete right now, but I really believe a lot of Brown's stats in the second half of the year were becauses safeties were always drifting towards Wallace, double teams were always going to Wallace, and Brown earned the trust of Ben enough to get a lot of balls thrown his way. You take Wallace out of the equation and I'm not so sure we're all as fired up about Brown as we are right now. Wallance will continue to get better, as will Brown. We need to keep both of these guys together in order for them to fully develop into stars.
     
  18. Steeldefense08

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    I really think $$ will go to Wallaces head and he will follow.
     
  19. truckin9999

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    I AGREE. Alot of posters are looking at the stats of the different receivers and think if Wallace is taken out of the picture, everything else will be the same.Wallace forces major attention from the opponents secondaries, and as such, opens up the field for the others to shine. Wallace had a down 2nd half this past year, but some of that is most likely do to the injuries to Ben, injuries to the offensive line, and the play calling. The Steelers have to make a serious offer to Wallace, as he is a known commodity and is ONLY 25yrs OLD, where a draft pick is a crap shoot. Cotchery is a FA and could be gone. If Wallace leaves, that would leave Emmanuel Sanders(injury problems), Hines Ward(last year?), Antonio Brown, and Arnaz Battle as the only WRs on the roster.

    Here is a scary thought...Wallace could end up on the Bengals and be playing against the Steelers twice a year for the next decade.
     
  20. Jim90

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    and with our garbage secondary he would get to his 2000 yards
     
  21. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    Steelers probably won't let him go to the bengals for that reason
     
  22. 58stillers

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    Wallace is good and worthy of keeping as a #2 WR. He's proving that he's not capable of being the #1 go to guy. The extra attention he gathers from opposing teams just opens up the opportunity for someone else to shine... i.e. Brown. Brown is not a #1 WR either, so I think losing Wallace could be detrimental to our offense.

    I mean honestly, who's going to run those "Run as fast as you can and see if I can out throw you" 3rd and 1 calls?

    I see Cotchery, brown, sanders being adequate replacements for Ward after he eventually moves on, but no stud go to guys to take on some of the better corners.
     
  23. jimmyallen45

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    I also don't see it being the Bengals, in spite of their cap room, who would go after Wallace.

    Cincinnati is the cheapest run franchise in the league. Marvin Lewis would have been fired many years ago, had he not been in the middle of a multi-year deal, because Brown did not want to pay him after he got rid of him. Cap room or not, they have less revenue than most teams due to lousy ticket sales. WR is right now a strength for them with 2 really good young players in Green and Simpson.

    So, I can definitely see a team risking a #1 to get him, but not the Bengals.

    The other thing is that it is also going to be a zero sum result, at best, for the Steelers. Sure, they would get an extra #1 pick, which would be nice, but they'd also likely have to spend a #3 or so pick on a WR, who would likely not be as a good as Wallace.
     
  24. jimmyallen45

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    I also don't see it being the Bengals, in spite of their cap room, who would go after Wallace.

    Cincinnati is the cheapest run franchise in the league. Marvin Lewis would have been fired many years ago, had he not been in the middle of a multi-year deal, because Brown did not want to pay him after he got rid of him. Cap room or not, they have less revenue than most teams due to lousy ticket sales. WR is right now a strength for them with 2 really good young players in Green and Simpson.

    So, I can definitely see a team risking a #1 to get him, but not the Bengals.

    The other thing is that it is also going to be a zero sum result, at best, for the Steelers. Sure, they would get an extra #1 pick, which would be nice, but they'd also likely have to spend a #3 or so pick on a WR, who would likely not be as a good as Wallace.
     
  25. thesteeldeal

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    I'd take that 6th pick and turn it into Justin Blackmon, we could use a physical reciever.
     

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