Is everyone else sick of....

His marriage: Not to appease us, but possibly to deflect. People get married for all kinds of bad reasons in real life AND celebrity life. Why can't he be in this category. It seems his word is the only word you trust. Idolizing too much?

Funny how when it suits your argument, it's ok but when I said in our last debate that women lie about rape, you said it has no bearing on the GA incident. Yet people get married for all kinds of bad reasons so it of course means Ben did too. Pot, meet kettle. And idolizing? Don't make me laugh, I own one jersey that I got when I was around 21, a Rod Woodson jersey. I don't idolize, dont' care about autographs, don't get awe struck around musicians (I've met several, friend is in the biz). It's posible that I just have an objective outlook where as you have publically admitted your dislike for Ben. Wonder which is biased here


Yup, it's like he keeps brushing up against a wound that's trying to heal. But it can't, and not because of natural biochemic and mental efforts to try and do so (you seem to not take me at my word, oh well). Maybe I am hyper sensitive to it now and maybe not. Yes, this is NOT positive off season press. That's a fact.

More proof you are irrational towards Ben. The GA incident, Nevada, motorcycle accident is bad press. Ben answering questions differently then how you would like is just you nit picking and looking for reasons to dislike him further.

Just look at the comments and answers the other players are saying VS. his and tell me you don't hear a different level of commitment, cohesion and team spirit. Or would you rather honesty and drama? I don't think it helps this team one bit. He's a vocal distraction and not a vocal leader in this respect. You might like it, but I'm def in the camp that doesn't.

Yup, I totally want honesty, the drama is in yours and the medias head, not my problem. I truly have no idea why you and others listen to interviews when all you want to hear is a canned response, I hate pc, keep it the f--k away from me, I want to hear what they really think.

Unless as the poster who above you said the "frustrating" statement is more about his personal inability to wrap his head around the system right now rather than his opinion of the system and it's direction. That I can totally understand since he has arguably the most to learn and I give him a pass there (it's your choice to believe me or not). I guess I shouldn't hope that in his 8th season he wouldn't be able to master clarity about such things that can misconstrued. Or learn to clarify and re-phrase a comment once/if it's been spun.

It wouldn't matter if he did, you wouldn't give him credit anyway, look at how you trash his marriage as a charade to improve public image. You'll find anything and everything to use and beat this guy down. You are not objective or fair when it comes to Ben at all, you aren't kidding anyone here by saying otherwise.

 

Hmm, interesting point. I always thought it was in the adjective family, specifically a definite article, regardless of what followed immediately after. I don't believe that changes if an adjective follows, for example.

:-D

 

I haven't been any more combative the you have and to date, I don't recall calling you a name as you did to me in our last conversation when you referred to me as a homer. I think you're alright old school, so I'm not going to let this turn into a feud, I think we actually agree on most other topics, we just strongly disagree when it comes to Ben. As I strongly disagree with everything you just said in your last response, so I'm just going to leave it at that. I don't know what it is with Steeler fans, there is always a portion of fans that hate our star QB, Bradshaw was hated by many Steeler fans too, he probably took more abuse then Ben has. That's just such a bizarre concept to me, I would hate to be in that boat, must be bitter sweet rooting for a guy every Sunday that is so instrumental in the outcome of the game.

 

I do, I think he's being honest there. No way Ben feels different, because he is a player, and when it comes to contract situations, no one is going to call out another player for trying to make as much money as they can. Don't forget, Wallace hasn't gotten his big payday, Ben and the others who restructured already got their big contracts. Plus, restructuring isn't taking a pay cut, it's changing when you get paid, in most cases I think anyway.