Is Bruce Arians leaving after this year?

It seems the issues is that fans expect the offense to be better then 20th in the league in ppg based on the talent. I don't feel that way. I am satisfied that this teams coaches and players find ways to win game regardless of the issues or rankings.

I believe Ben shoulders most of the blame for the offenses inconsistency. The QB is the most important player on most offenses. He should shoulder most of the blame when the offense doesn't perform as some fans expect. As I stated, when Ben performed well, the offense looked good. When he performed poorly/inconsistently, the offense struggled. Ben's biggest issue is maintaining enough consistency to take this offense to a higher level. That's for the people that are concerned with where this offense ranks statistically.

Not all of the issues are because of Ben. The injuries on the Oline were beyond Ben's or the coaches control. Penalties were another issue that can't be controlled outside of the individuals that commit them.[/quote:oaprggdy]

I don't know why that is so important to some fans, we should have 12 wins after today, who gives a rats ass about where we stand in PPG. I thought wins mattered most [/quote:oaprggdy]

Wins are great but when you get in the playoffs you need to score points to get the W. After today those 12 wins don't mean a thing. So blowing out the crap teams that add to the over all win total won't help a playoff team that can't score consistently in the red zone.

Also can we drop the "SOME" routine it is getting old. Spirited debate is one thing but all this " some people", "'some fans" stuff is beginning to get irritating. It sound like the one saying it thinks he is better than the next guy. We are all steeler fan each with our own likes, dislikes, opinions and so on. There will always be agreement and disagreement on many different things on this board but can we get rid of the part of the discussion.

 

Yep they installed the spread offense complete with the option to make Tebow comfortable but relied heavily on their defense and running game so that the burden of winning the game wasn't all on Tebow. He was given the opportunity to make mistakes. As you stated they had some temporary success but I think it is a mixed bag. In Ben's case I don't think they have gone anywhere near the lengths they did with Tebow. They put things in place that Ben likes but haven't gone entirely to what he wants because of the talent level on offense.

 

Sorry TE I wasn't trying to single you out and say that it was you that was doing this as an insult. I should have put it in its own post so as not to make it look like I am finger pointing.

I don't give two figs about stats never have. 400 yards passing a game without the win is a hollow stat. That being said and the point i was trying to make is that the whole ugly win, no points for style, who cares how it is accomplished attitude is great in the regular season where there always is a tomorrow but in the playoffs you can't afford to squander chances on offense, you can't rely on the defense to get a turnover and score some points. You have to make the most of the opportunities given you. I wasn't talking about PPG which I agree with you is a meaningless stat unless it demonstrates wasted opportunities which in some ways it does.

 

Like I said, whatever side of the fence you're on relating to BA is likely where you'll stay regardless of the points made on either side. So I'll take my leave from this ugly debate as it seems quite pointless. Whether one supports BA or not, I guess we'll just have to live with it.

 

Two things Bettissb40, first of all, I think a lot of people know that Tomlin lets BA and Ben do what they want. You never see Tomlin in the huddle during time outs with the offense. He just stands around with his hands in his pocket. So as far as the boss thing goes, he lets them do what they want. They don't answer to him. Point in case was the Cleveland game, when there was a time out and BA, Ben and the offense got together on the sideline, Tomlin was no where near the gathering on the sidelines, he just stood back looking out onto the field.

Mr. Rooney let his feelings be known last year when he told them that he wanted them to concentrate on running the ball better. BA didn't listen this year, he went back to his old ways, passing the ball more. Thats reason enough not to bring him back.

Tomlin definitely doesn't have anything to say to Lebeau and the defense.

 

Proof you say, well as you stated in your post below:

"I think Mike and I certainly agreed coming off the season that we need to run the ball more consistently to get to where we want to get to," Rooney told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette yesterday. "So that's part of the thinking in the offseason: We need to figure out how to get better running the football."

Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that."

The Steelers ran only 42.2 percent of the time in 2009, although their 112.1 yards a game were nearly seven more than their Super Bowl season of 2008. However, Rooney's point is not so much those statistics, but the inconsistency throughout the season.

"We have to get back to being able to run the football when we need to run the football, and being able to run more consistently than we have in the past season," he said.

How about that, there is your proof. Arians ignored the Rooneys desires this season because he went right back to his old ways, throwing the football. If he wants to return next, I bet the Rooneys say thanks but no thanks, we are going in a different direction. His contract will not be renewed.

I don't see how Tomlin could put his trust in Arians. It could be his downfall.

 

Well, Mr. Burgh, if Ben is not as good as we fans rate him, then how has he gotten better at anything under Arians' tutelage. If anything, he has not progressed at getting better at anything during Arians time as OC. The only thing I can say for real is that, they win inspite of BA because of the sandlot football that Ben plays. Ben holds the ball and or scrambles around trying to make something happen. A lot of times he does make something happen, and not because of BA's brillent play calling and play design.

 

Agreed, get rid of Ariens and bring on Norv Turner. The Steelers could do much worse.

 

You know why there aren't any new arguments about this topic, because its the same old things week after week with BA, game plan, play calling, red zone efficency, his same old formations, one back/zero backs, run to pass ratio, and his general lack of knowledge of the running game.

Its called, SOS, same old s _ _ _ !!!!!!!

 

Thats what we need some tiger blood and a few Warlocks