Is Bruce Arians leaving after this year?

two words.... randy fichtner.

 

Norv actually is the play caller in San Diego. And the reason I said that about Cam Cameron is because when he was the OC at San Diego Ladainian rewrote the record book. So we know that Cam is not afraid to run. That is all I am saying. I would just want someone that we know will give us atleast a LITTLE Cowher ball. Let's be honest. That is what we are all missing anyway.

 

He's a BA clone and we wouldn't see much change, so no. :FBAI!:

 

I would have the same concerns with Fichtner as well.I think if we do make a change at OC we need to go outside and also someone with experience and a proven track record to get Ben to buy in. :FBAI!:

 

Don't get me wrong I want ba as long as possible but when he retires I would love to have randy fichtner as our next OC

 

A game plan that attacks the weaknesses of the other team. A game plan which doesn't involve having to rely on a hope and a prayer in the fourth quarter to win or make Ben the hero. Utilizing the talent you have in order to score points consistently and not using them to make Ben look good. As not to pile on the offense I would also like a return of the exotic blitz packages that made the fire zone blitz so feared for a long time. The last few years the Steelers have got more and more vanilla on some of these blitzes, however I will say this year they have started to get back to that everyone coming, multiple lanes of attack, stunting and so on. Is that too much to ask?

 

I am almost positive that one day, maybe sometime in the new year, you and I will find something to agree on. Here's to a Happy New Year to you! :hello:

 

People keep saying we win despite of BA. I dont get it. I mean the relationship he has with these receivers and particular Ben is very positive. If BA was gone tomorrow no matter who was the replacement you wont see the cohesiveness we have now.

BA has called some pretty decent games this year and then some which might have been more related to execution from our guys. I have seen alot of drops this year from our high powered offense and Mendy still dances too much on run plays that are designed for him and our oline has serious issues which pretty much makes your OC have to abort a run game if no holes are generated. Mendy still has issues related to ball security as well. I dont know how that is even coachable at this point since year after year he is told to secure the ball

Just saying he is not the second coming but he is not as bad as people make him out to be either

Bman

 

how do you come to that assumption? i believe you are dead wrong. fichtners offense was a proven winner and made average players very good. ones without nearly the talent level as he would have to work with here. not buying that scenario at all, but i would say he would be very familiar with our product and the change over wouldn't take near as long as a new guy. he made his own offensive system and it worked well, he didn't learn it from BA.

 

At 12 - 4? (hopefully) I'd say so. We are winning, what this basically comes down to is that we aren't winning the way fans would like. Tough cookies. I'd like to see some of those things too but I have a hard time getting worked up about it with a season like this.[/quote:1rsfa7zd]

Who is worked up? I have said it before on the old board and this one as well. Huge difference between wanting to talk and discuss football and complaining. When alot of us get into these BA threads it is to discuss football and yet we get painted with that malcontent brush just as those who don't see BA as a big problem get painted as apologists when they shouldn't. My feeling has always been that after a win there is only so much high fiving and awesome air kicks you can do before you are left with nothing to talk about, usually a hour later in fact. So then why not talk about something that generates a long and interesting debate.

 

I hate to break it to the BA haters, but he won't be going anywhere this year unless he decides to retire. The Rooneys are satisfied with him at OC and that is all that matters.

 

please provide proof of satisfaction? Also as others have said his contract is up at the end of the year so no firing necessary just don't have to offer him a new contract.

 

Please provide proof of satisfaction? The proof is that he's been here for 7 yrs, 5 yrs as a OC. If the Rooneys were really that unhappy with him, he would have been gone a longtime ago plain and simple. I will continue to trust in the Rooney's and their judgement. I think that they tend to know a little more about football than some of the proclaimed experts who hate Arians and claim he is the worst OC ever, lol. Again, I'm not saying he is the greatest OC but he is not the worst like some of you claim. There will always be a faction of fans that are unhappy with the HC, OC or QB no matter who it is, it has always been this way.

So, what is your point? I believe the job is Arians job for as long as he wants it, much to you and others dismay. If he wants to retire, then he won't be back, if not, he'll be offered another contract.

 

Ok let me rephrase when have the Rooney's ever fired a coach in the last 35+ years? You are taking their inaction as a sign that they are satisfied with Bruce Arians work when in fact they don't get mixed up in that aspect of the team, this isn't Jerry Jones or Daniel Synder we are talking about here. In fact the most i can remember ever hearing form the Rooney in regards to coaching is that they want to work on running the football more effectively. That is why I asked you to prove they are satisfied with his work because they don't make comments about staffing to the media.

Now You are in all likelihood right he will be back next year if they offer him an extension because Ben likes him as an OC, He lets Ben do what he wants which is fine let Ben be Ben and when he is forced to retire due to injuries there will be no one to blame but Ben. I would like to See Arains take the gameplan from last week and sit down with Ben and say see we can let you be you and still do this and maybe keep you from getting hurt, we can adapt this for your style of play instead of what seems to be them sayign "Hey Ben go do what you do" and let the chips fall where they may.

 

Our offense is absolutely packed with talent at every position except OL, and even that is getting better. The level of success our offense does have rarely comes from playcalling. Think about Bruce's SB win and the entire playoff run. How many of those scoring plays were executed as designed (like all of Green Bay's) and how many were improvised or just brilliantly performed by talented players?

'08 AFCCG -- Improvised long TD pass by Ben and Santonio and the defense win the game.
'08 SB -- Bad red zone playcalling almost costs us the game. We are rescued by James Harrison, and once again Ben and Santonio improvising.

I'm not even going to go into the rest of his time as OC. The facts are that he would have NO Super Bowl wins if the players on the field hadn't compensated for his poor offense management, and with the talent and defense we have we should always be in the top 5 of passing and scoring, and top 10 in running.

 

Is Bruce Arians leaving after this year? Yeah,hopefully in approximately 6hrs and 50 mins(EASTERN TIME)just in time for the playoffs.ha ha. Happy New Year to all of STEELER NATION. :shots:

 

Can we all agree it's an OC's job to "coordinate the offense" and help it succeed in scoring points? We are 20th in scoring offense this year. Maybe the Rooney's fire BA or maybe they choose not to. But how can it possibly be said they are satisfied with an offense ranked so low in the league? Wasn't it just last year (or maybe the year before?) they made a public comment about not liking how the offense was being run and demanded some changes? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of their OC. I think it's a huge stretch to say they are "satisfied" with BA just because they haven't fired him, yet.

:FBAI!:

 

Gilbride and Sherman as OC's, more recently Ligurshky and Zierlein, were all fired. I'm sure there are more, I just can't think of others off of the top of my head. How do you know what decisions the Rooney's make or don't make? No, the Chief, Dan or Art II just aren't as vocal as Jones or Snyder in the media, thats not their style. They didn't even officially or formally announce Art II taking over the reigns in 2003. So, you think as the President of the Steelers and partial owner that Art Rooney II and his father Dan as Chairman have no concern with the performance of their team and that if someone was truly a detriment to the team that they would just turn a blind eye and let them stay here for 7 years? C'mon man, seriously? What about Tomlin, do you think they had nothing to do with his hiring? Dan has even stated that he was responsible for all coach hirings, firings and major decisions since the 70's. So, why wouldn't Art II be involved in those decisions as well?

 

Gilbride and Sherman as OC's, more recently Ligurshky and Zierlein, were all fired. I'm sure there are more, I just can't think of others off of the top of my head. How do you know what decisions the Rooney's make or don't make? No, the Chief, Dan or Art II just aren't as vocal as Jones or Snyder in the media, thats not their style. They didn't even officially or formally announce Art II taking over the reigns in 2003. So, you think as the President of the Steelers and partial owner that Art Rooney II and his father Dan as Chairman have no concern with the performance of their team and that if someone was truly a detriment to the team that they would just turn a blind eye and let them stay here for 7 years? C'mon man, seriously? What about Tomlin, do you think they had nothing to do with his hiring? Dan has even stated that he was responsible for all coach hirings, firings and major decisions since the 70's. So, why wouldn't Art II be involved in those decisions as well?[/quote]

Maybe the Rooney's fire BA or maybe they choose not to. But how can it possibly be said they are satisfied with an offense ranked so low in the league? Wasn't it just last year (or maybe the year before?) they made a public comment about not liking how the offense was being run and demanded some changes? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of their OC. I think it's a huge stretch to say they are "satisfied" with BA just because they haven't fired him, yet. C'mon man.

:FBAI!:

 

You also forgot to mention that we rank 11th overall in offense at the moment, how is that being so low in the league? Here are Art Rooney II's words below. Just because he says that they have been inconsistent in the running game doesn't mean he was unhappy with Arians and the overall offense. What if he was talking about the oline maintaining their blocks, what about production from RB's? I do remember that Zierlein was fired as oline coach around this time. Some of you choose to make mountains out of mole hills to justify your stance. Again, if Arians was so horrible, he wouldn't still be here after 5 seasons as OC. The Steelers and the Rooneys don't operate like that, if he wasn't producing and we weren't producing results, he would be gone just like Zierlein, Ligurshky were that year and as Gilbride and Sherman were back in the late 90's.

"I think Mike and I certainly agreed coming off the season that we need to run the ball more consistently to get to where we want to get to," Rooney told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette yesterday. "So that's part of the thinking in the offseason: We need to figure out how to get better running the football."

Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that."

The Steelers ran only 42.2 percent of the time in 2009, although their 112.1 yards a game were nearly seven more than their Super Bowl season of 2008. However, Rooney's point is not so much those statistics, but the inconsistency throughout the season.

"We have to get back to being able to run the football when we need to run the football, and being able to run more consistently than we have in the past season," he said.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10015/10 ... z1i9kQnma3