Is Bruce Arians leaving after this year?

Is BA leaving after this year? Does anyone know? If so, it would be great to see Norv Turner take over
next year.

 

It wouldn't pain me to see that.

 

Don't you realize that you are caught in a football nightmare. Bruce will never leave and, soon, each game will resemble the movie "Groundhog Day". Oh wait... each game already does!

 

Firing Bruce after this season would be one of the dumbest moves the Steelers have ever made and I mean EVER!!

 

they say we're young and we don't know
we won't find out until we grow
Well i don't know if all that's true
'cause you got me and baby i got you
BABE
i got you babe , i got you babe

Is it possible,Bruce and Ben sing this together?

 

Bruce is in his 5th season as the offensive coordinator and has 2 Super Bowl appearances with one of them being a win for us. I don’t understand why some of you hate this guy so much. Who would you want in here after he leaves?? Who are you going to blame losses on after he’s gone; I know it want be Ben. Again, firing Bruce would be the dumbest thing we have ever done. :banghead: :banghead:

 

Slickster - His situational playcalling and game planning nearly give me a heart attack every week. I'm too young to die over something so stupid. The OC should be scripting the plays to the weakest part of the opposing defenses but yet this guy continues to throw his arms and the ball in the air mainly at Bens approval.

Sure, some say this is a passing league now but when you throw the ball against the worst run defense in the league as opposed to running it to a tune of 44 -17 ratio it becomes questionable how much intelligence this guy really has.

Gone are the days of a run oriented Steelers foootball offense since he has come in.

Heck just balance the game of pass / run not 65% Pass.

Also, four runs from inside the 2 of Mendy straight up the middle is ridiculous when you have a bulldozer like Redman standing on the sidelines.

I'm with the group that believes the Steelers win in spite of BA.

Good Riddance.

 

Actually Bruce wont be under contract after this season...so they wouldnt technically have to fire him. Haha

 

anyone who does not believe in a FB as part of an offense... to me is a joke..

 

The offense is inefficient. It's that simple. Yes, he is working with a terrible o-line, but so is Aaron Rodgers. Here's my list of Bruce criticisms:

1. Red zone playcalling and red zone efficiency
2. Too many plays take too long to develop...Receivers run 10-12 yard patterns on a 3rd and 3. !!!!!
3. Pass routes are easy to cover--see the Ravens' CB's statement about covering the Steelers' receivers. (Gruden on MNF: "That's poor route distribution, there.")
4. Situational playcalling. Bruce is the King of empty set, 5-wide...on a 2nd down and 2 or 3. The guy's a bona fide idiot; Rod Woodson called him out on this a couple of years ago, with a wry smile and shaking his head."Why in the world on a 2nd and short are you dictating to the defense that you have no intention of running the ball?"
5. Offense can't put games away when given the opportunity. (see #10)
6. TEs are not utilized nearly enough, but this is partly an o-line problem, too.
7. No screen passes that work...I don't think bruce knows how to design a screen pass.
8. He removed the FB from the offense. Another brilliant move (eyes rolling).
9. Typical Bruce series: 1st and 10: Mendenhall off tackle for 3. 2nd and 7: Ben is hurried, incomplete; 3rd and 7: empty set, Ben is sacked. (BROKEN RECORD)
10. The results. They are what they are. This team too often STRUGGLES to put points on the board against mediocre to bad offenses. I can accept it happening once a season, but NOT 3-4 times per season. The personnel on this offense is too damn good to not be putting up 27+ pts per game.

 

i would have already call norv turner . some rumors say he is going to baltimore

 

I'd rather have Todd Haley.

 

Genius emoticon there.

I don't think BA gets fired - as slickster said, his record is far better than many other OCs (for whatever reasons).

It's more liklely he moves on or retires.

If he did, I wonder if they would look at anyone currently inside the organisation rather than outside?

 

That about sums it up. Not to mention his feet stink and he don't love Jesus.

 

ha heard that on sirius comedy radio today
BRUCE BRUCE

 

Exactly, even though Ben's been one of the biggest contributors to the offensive problems this year with his 14 INTs. When BA does move on I pitty the poor bastard that takes his place as the new whipping boy

 

As long as William Gay and a TE not named Miller are on the team you won't have to worry about having a new whipping boy. AS far as BA being blamed for anything, I have said it before and will say it agian and again and again. I only blame him for the things he is responsible for. Compare last week's game plan to any game plan used with Ben against a subpar team and tell me that you feel that there isn't a disconnect between how BA approaches a game with Ben as QB and when he doesn't and I will leave Arains blameless in his own shortcomings

 

:bs: Uhhh, we are 20th in scoring offense so yes, he is doing better than 12 OC's, but worse than the other 19. Face it, 20th out of 32 is not good. We can, and should do better.

 

:bs: :bs: :bs: DiehardSteel , I don’t like to talk about stats because they are VERY misleading unless we are talking about the win and loss column but we are 11th overall in offense which means we are better than 21 teams and 10 teams are better than us and blah,blah, blah. Take away some of the picks by number 7 and a few fumbles there is no telling where we would be but again, STATS are very misleading. Playoff wins and Super Bowl appearances are NOT.

 

We can hope, can't we?

 

:bs: Uhhh, we are 20th in scoring offense so yes, he is doing better than 12 OC's, but worse than the other 19. Face it, 20th out of 32 is not good. We can, and should do better.[/quote]

:bs: :bs: :bs: DiehardSteel , I don’t like to talk about stats because they are VERY misleading unless we are talking about the win and loss column but we are 11th overall in offense which means we are better than 21 teams and 10 teams are better than us and blah,blah, blah. Take away some of the picks by number 7 and a few fumbles there is no telling where we would be but again, STATS are very misleading. Playoff wins and Super Bowl appearances are NOT. [/quote]

Exactly. I wasn't talking about scoring stats - and if that's the stat you're after, then if anything, you keep BA for his "bombs away" approach and try and turn Ben into Brees. BA's record in terms of wins, play-offs etc. is not bad enough to warrant being fired, for better or for worse.

 

Of course he's not going to use the same game plan with Ben as he did Charlie. There are totally different expectations with Charlie versus Ben. The expectations with Charlie are manage the game and protect the ball. As a result the play calling will be less aggressive, especially with the downfield passing game. Ben on the other hand is being paid $100M + to win the game and he's expected to do it by making big plays in the passing game. The Steelers could go back to the days of 3 yards and a cloud of dust and implement a dink and dunk passing game since that's what most of the BA complainers seem to want to see based on the posts I read here. If they do that they could save a lot of money at the QB position because all they would need is a good game manager. By his own admission Ben's a gun slinger who loves to go downfield with the ball. He's comfortable with BAs offense and there's good chemistry there and at 11 and 4 whatever they're doing is working more often than it's not. To think he'd fall right in line with a new OC that wants to try and turn him in to a Tom Brady style of QB is just crazy wishful thinking but that's what many here believe will happen when BAs gone. Sorry but I just don't see it.

 

Here is the thing about BA haters (my self included).

1. Terrible at devising a custom game plan. He has 2 game plans total. The offense you see with Charlie on the field (dink and dunk, run the ball then PA) and Backyard football. There has been one game they used dink and dunk and that was vs the Patriots. Notice now I said custom game plan, there are certain teams in the league where backyard and throw down the field style of offense will produce points on the board. However, there are other teams this will not work but the team Tomlin, BA, and Ben refuse to change their planning to attack the weakness of the defense. That is down right stupid. We have all seen with our own eyes that Ben and the team is capable of running MULTIPLE different offensive looks successfully (running game, see jacksonville game this year, dink and dunk passing Patriots game, down field attacking Tennesse). This leads me to the next point.

2. Situational playing calling and clock management.
So we agree the team is capable of producing multiple different ways, but then we get into the game and make very poor decisions. Example in the past 5 years has been 3rd and 1 and we go 5 wide empty set backfield usually when we are on the opposing teams 30 and it produces...........wait for it.................. a ****ing sack. Then because we are out of range for our below average fg kick we produce zero points. Its up to OUR COACHES, to put our PLAYERS in the best possible spot to win. When you call plays with LOW execution and success rates at critical times in the game you are failing the team. Then to tote the line of its up to play execution is ridiculous. Take this blown out of proportion example. Lets say you need to capture a high profile terrorist. Your team NEEDS to get him. Do you line up a mile away in front of hideout with bright colored clothing and slow march while shooting at them with pistols from this distance? **** NO you dont. That is exactly what happens with our Steelers team, they run the same stupid plays and everyone watching on TV or in the stadium knows whats coming. After 5 years of this nonsense if you can't see that our coaches and QB are POOR in the area of managing a game / calling high success plays, then I challenge you to watch an Offense that consistently puts up points, Patriots, GB, NO. Hell ya those Qbs are good but they understand that the game isnt just "lets bomb aways". You setup the opposing defense then stomp on their throat with your best moves. The steelers only throw haymakers

I didnt even touch the terrible clock management, i could write a book