Interesting article gives context to Dupree pick

A player who is clearly better than Dupree was available. He plays a position the team needed then and still needs now. That's not speculation. That is reality. The Steelers could have had Jones and he is a better player than Dupree.

Of course, I'm still hoping Dupree will help the Steelers take advantage of a backup left tackle tomorrow.

 

Only in hindsight can a soothsayer claim Dupree was the wrong pick. OLB was a need then as well as DB. For me the jury is still out on Bud. He is godlike gifted physically but raw on technique. He has Lawrence Taylor like speed & strength but not LTs drive to make a play. If only someone could press that button.

 

I’m saying a few draft picks better on the defensive side and we likely have a SB or two.

 

The Rams are loaded with defensive talent, and have the likely DPoY. They are still only in the middle/bottom of defensive rankings (16th in net passing yards/attempt, 27th in rush yards/attempt).

The Ravens have arguably the best defense in the league. (1st in yards, points. 1st in net passing yards/attempt in a pass-happy league). Their offense is not an anchor (14th in points and yards). Yet they are only 4-4.

If the Steelers could get better defensively without any other side-effects... sure, that would be wonderful. But there is usually a trade-off needed to make that happen.

 

Jones has looked like a shutdown corner with dallas. Their defense surprisingly has been elite and better than their offense.

 

IIRC, the concern re: Jones was his man coverage ability. Weren’t we looking for cornerbacks who could play man?

 

Agree. The word we are looking for is tenacity. He doesn't have that....

 

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/threads/alvin-bud-dupree-game-film.11492/

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/threads/bud-dupree-just-say-no.11556/

funny to go back and look at our pre draft talk. Especially when compared to JJ - Jarvis Jones

 

Interesting look back. Some of the issues that were discussed are still a problem today. Some of you guys nailed it in your evaluations especially the ones that noted his lack of aggression being a issue.
He has another big opportunity in front of him today.....

 

It's a lot easier to find a RB or WR in the draft, rather than LB or CB when drafting late.

 

I'm sure they're sitting around waiting for your approval of them .

 

Indeed. Then we drafted Burns and stuck him in zone...

 

U mad bro? Colbert has done a good job overall. Tomlin needs to go. Munchak would be a much better HC. Promote from within.

 

Yeah because Munchak was such a good HC with the Titans . You're clueless as usual.

 

I give up. Your trying to sell me your opinion as fact. I'm telling you, although I don't disagree necessarily, unless we had picked Jones and that played out, what you say is only opinion. Of course, I'm not sure why I have continued this back and forth. You say fact, I say opinion...either way, what is done is done. I like Bud and don't think he is as bad as others. I hope he reaches his potential sooner rather than later.

 

Are we debating Bryon Jones vs Bud Dupree again?


How would Byron Jones assist in pass rushing? Any takers?

 

Munchak didn't have a lot of talent to work with when he was hired. Plus, he was 2-0 as head coach vs. the Steelers. It is you who are clueless.

 

I'll take the bait....better coverage possibly leading to more sacks

Not interested in the Jones/Dupree debate but you asked....

 

With Jarvis Jones? You sure?

 

Huh? What? Byron Jones....you ok?

 

You stated better coverage equated to better sacks.


How I see it is better pressure leads to a higher percentage of acquring sacks. Furthermore, among the edge rushers that we had, only James Harrison could apply that pressure. No one else.


While Byron Jones would help shore up the coverage unit, let us play devil's advocate for a second. Assume we draft Byron Jones in Round One of 2015. Who would have been a good choice for the second round given the information present at the time? Randy Gregory and Danielle Hunter were both long gone at that point.


Furthermore, even if we snagged Anthony Chickillo still in the sixth, what about the 2016 class of edge rushers who were available when Pittsburgh was on the clock? The only one of note was Joey Bosa; a top three pick whom we were not getting.

 

Trust me my man. Walk away. Better for you to do so. Soldier on at your own discretion.

 

Whoa! Horsey. I think you totally misunderstood my post. You asked how Byron Jones would help our pass rush....I stated that it could possibly help by better coverage leading to coverage sacks thus " assisting " the pass rush. Who? What? When? I said I wasn't going to debate the selection of Byron Jones or Dupree it's all hypothetical . I know you like to punch keys though...it's all good.

 

You are right. I am old enough to know better, but once in a while, I forget myself.