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Insight from Garvin and Moats into playcalling

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by FosterMorris, Jan 28, 2022.

  1. FosterMorris

    FosterMorris Well-Known Member

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    In short they agree that Tomlin set the defensive menu and that was the menu Butler ordered plays from. They do not believe Tomlin made all the defensive play calls himself.
     
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  2. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    I'll have a Big Mac, fries and a diet coke
     
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  3. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking a chicken nuggets happy meal.
     
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  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 That was my bed

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    This is what I have been suspecting all along
     
  5. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Fred Garvin?

     
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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    @Formerscribe watch the video, like I have been saying all along it was done in certain situations, not all the calls.
     
  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm well if this is true I have no problem with this. This is actually what I expect.
    Then what pray tell is Butler, and everyone else going on about???
     
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  8. FosterMorris

    FosterMorris Well-Known Member

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    I think Butler is saying 100% of the plays and coverages called (Moats is saying that's about 5 per game) is Tomlin because he is preparing them all and deciding the game plan.
     
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  9. RobertoC#21

    RobertoC#21 Well-Known Member

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    If Tomlin called the defense or even 50% of the calls or overruled some calls, he should own it!! I am sure if they were #1 defense in the league, he wouldnt deny it or let Butler take the credit....just sayin!!!
     
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  10. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    Who sponsored those “You make the call” commercials that ran during NFL games in the ‘80s? Was it IBM? They’d show a tight or controversial play from games past and let you guess what the right call was. After the advert spiel, they reveal what the ‘right’ call was. “If you rules incomplete pass, you made the right call!!”
     
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  11. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

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    Was it Alcoa? Or were they the "Fantastic Finishes"? Maybe both?
     
  12. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    No, Fantastic Finishes was something different.
     
  13. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

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    IBM it was.
     
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  14. jamie

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    Maybe instead of calling the defense he should focus on timeouts, clock management and challenges, since he s*cks at all of them.
     
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  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 That was my bed

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    Let’s see if he mans up and admits he was wrong

    I don’t see it

    You won’t see this, still hiding?
     
  16. SteelReal

    SteelReal Well-Known Member

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    Boi calm down. is there a time that you know of where Tomlin hasn't taken responsibility when asked about it?? I can name on one hand, if at all, where Tomlin ever threw one of his coordinators or players under the bus. Aside from that if you look at the Steelers defenses over the years this is the first time in a while where the Steeler defense hasn't finished top half of the league and there's only been three times his whole career here. I think it's pretty understandable why the defense was as poor as it was this year and I don't care what DC you would rather have had over this unit..nobody's a miracle worker. Also consider the fact that if the offense hadn't been as bad as it was maybe the defense would have looked and done a whole lot better.

    Team Defense Ranking- Source: Pro Football Reference. Points allowed ranking in ().

    2007 - #1(2)
    2008 - #1 (1)
    2009 - #5 (13)
    2010 - #2 (1)
    2011 - #1 (1)
    2012 - #1 (6)
    2013 - #13 (14)
    2014- #18 (18)
    2015 - #12 (11)
    2016 - #12 (10)
    2017 - #5 (7)
    2018 - #6 (17)
    2019 - #5 (6)
    2020 - #3 (3)
    2021 - #26 (22)
     
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