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Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by steel1031, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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  2. JackAttack 5958

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  3. blackandgoldpatrol

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    You would have to get in line behind me
     
  4. kakhatesmortgages

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  5. steel1031

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    really? just curious, why?
     
  6. mac daddyo

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    I mentioned cooks before. I could see it. deep threat we don't have. two AB's are better than one, especially one that's real fast. he's a good player.:cool:
     
  7. Blast Furnace

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    If I had to guess, lack of size plus the last speed demon here left a bad taste for most everyone.
     
  8. SGSteeler

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    This is what people have reservations about. It seems like a consensus that if we are a "tall" WR away from a big time offense.... I think we are a "GOOD" WR away from that big time offense (no matter what size). I like Cooks for many of the same reasons for why I like Marquis Lee. Cooks is faster than Lee, although not as polished. Both of them could become big time big play threats in the NFL. AB, Wheaton, and Cooks would be scary for a defense to try to contain. If anyone gets their hands on the ball they could be gone...
     
  9. mac daddyo

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    he was the best receiver in college football last year and pretty close the year before that. he's much more than just a speed demon. if people think he's Wallace again it's not even close. plus he's a return man which we need. he's a first rounder, not a 4th rounder. over 1,700 yards last year is pretty darn good, no matter the size. heck , I'd take the two midgets 1-2 and wouldn't bat an eye. Donald-cooks and we would be better on both sides of the ball. doubt that's gonna happen though.:cool:
     
  10. JackAttack 5958

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    He's this years Tavon Austin. Austin had an okay rookie season and is a difference maker on special teams. He's also a good receiver with speed to burn. We just signed a 5'9" guy with speed and we have another couple of 5'10" guys with speed. If we draft a WR in the first, let's put the cookie cutter away and draft a big guy if Evans is there. There are MANY players I'd draft before Cooks including the corners we've been talking about, Ebron and I'd even go with Nix or one of the DEs first. I'm sure Cooks will be a nice player for somebody but the Steelers have too many other needs to make him their number one overall pick!
     
  11. Blast Furnace

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    I don't have an opinion on him one way or the other, just hazarding a guess as to why others might not. :shrug:
     
  12. steel1031

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    so you are not opposed to a wr, just a "short" one? I just don't understand when people decided that you have to be 6'3 or bigger to be a good wr. who cares if we have 5 wrs who are short. if you can run, catch , and help win games that's all I want. if this kid is a first rounder and can do that, and wr is a need. then take him
     
  13. JackAttack 5958

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    We've got plenty of "short" receivers that can play. Let's get a guy with a different skill set. :shrug:
     
  14. mac daddyo

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    we have two of them. moye and brown. we don't have a deep threat burner as well as a good route runner and chain mover with good hands that can return kicks and play the #2 spot. give me a big guy with those skill sets and we should definitely pick him. I just don't see many of them jack.:cool:
     
  15. mac daddyo

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    I wasn't directing it at you BF, just the comment that you commented on about the people with the bad taste in their mouths around here. that's why I said if people around here think he's just a Wallace again thingy. just discussing the discussion my friend.:smiley1::cool:
     
  16. steelersrule6

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    Not interested in Cooks, we have enough midgets at WR already. We need a redzone threat like Mike Evans would be.
     
  17. JackAttack 5958

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    Moye and Brown are raw, unproven players. In Moore and Brown you have two short guys that have proven they can perform at this level and in Wheaton you've got another short(er) guy the Steelers gave high hopes for. I'm not opposed to another short receiver that can play, just not in the first round with our other pressing needs.
     
  18. Nah85

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    Cooks is unproven in the NFL as well. If we went offense in the first, Id only want to consider Ebron ( obviously as Millers eventual replacement) We have Brown, Wheaton, Moore, Miller, Bell in our passing attack. Theres only one ball to go around. But then again there's no depth behind them.
     
  19. SGSteeler

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    We don't need a jump ball specialist WR to be a good red zone team... We just don't. They aren't really high percentage throws either. The NFL is a one on one match up league, and I'm not talking about height/weight match ups. It's all about can you beat the guy that's lined up across from you. As a WR you can beat the corner two ways in the NFL. You either blow by the corner with speed, or you beat him by running a good route. Cooks can win either way, and your "big" WR's (Evans, Benjamin) cannot win in either fashion. Who cares if you're 6'5'' if you cant get free from the corner? I'd rather Ben throw to open 5'9'' guys all day instead of covered 6'5'' guys. I guess that is just my opinion.
     
  20. SteelerNDC

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    I'd rather have Lee. Cooks is fast, but I dont trust WRs from spread/non pro style offenses.
     
  21. Steel_Elvis

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    I have not had a chance to watch Cooks other than watching games on live TV, so I can't give an informed opinion. However, IF we feel strongly that he is the same player as AB, as some have suggested he is, then you put his name on the card and skip up to the podium with it when it's time to pick at #15. AB is so good that if we had drafted him in the middle of the 1st round instead of the 6th, we'd still be happy with the value of the pick.
     
  22. GB_Steel

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    I'd take Cooks and wouldn't bat an eye. Personally I'd rather go OL since they make everyone on offense better, but Cooks would definitely improve our passing attack if that's what they want to do. It would be a luxury pick, as would any WR in the first two rounds, but it'd be a good luxury pick, especially if they like his attitude and demeanor.
     
  23. steel1031

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    he is a faster Antonio brown. why would YOU not want him? people rave about his work ethic and his attention to detail. there is a kid from Knoxville going to Oregon st. Hawkins is his name. how they found him I have no idea but he is about the same size. they are grooming him to come in to play the same role cooks played. on his visit he spent a lot of time with cooks and talked about how he was one of the main reasons he choose Oregon st. he cares about the legacy that the wr position has there. he seems like a high character kid and I don't think you can have enough of those
     
  24. SteelCity_NB

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    I wouldn't want Cooks at #15. I like his speed and I like his production. He probably will be a good NFL player but its far from a guarantee.
     
  25. mac daddyo

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    moye and brown are raw but still the size you need for the red zone so why not them? if you have them, use them. heck sanders and brown were once raw too. we saw a glimps of moye catching a contested ball between two raven defenders and getting the crap knocked out of him , but he made the catch. he also worked out well on the fade for a TD. shouldn't we at least see if he can't do that on a consistent basis first? save a draft pick in the process. just because a guy is different doesn't mean better. any rookie is going to be raw, moreso than a guy that's been here in the offense already. moye is tall and moye is faster than most in the draft. we don't have johnny football running around until evans gets open either. ebron drops a lot of balls in college, so what makes you think he will catch them against pro defenders? does this really make us better than the two raw guys we have?:cool:
     

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