" If I have to motivate you, I will fire you " - Chuck Noll quote via Andy Russell

With all the things going on with the team right now with the sloppy play and how they 'appear' to lay down once behind a couple scores, this is a snippet of a core tactic used by the most productive coach in the modern NFL era. Wish this current future squad could figure it out among themselves. What was the 70's dynasty guys doing that these guys aren't ?

LINK: http://www.steelers.com/news/articl...uck-Noll/ff163ef7-ba78-474c-80ed-19a23c8b7fb5

ANDY RUSSELL

He was the guy who changed everything. The Steelers were a terrible team back in the 60s. As players we were very frustrated. We couldn’t figure out what was wrong with us. He basically told us, not in these words, but that we weren’t very good. Only five of us made it from his first season to the Super Bowl in 1974. He was focused on details. That was his mantra. He was a genius in that respect. He was not into emotional pep talks or anything like that. One time he said if I have to motivate you, I will fire you...

 

oh boy, you will open a hornets nest.lol

some on here think the exact opposite. they think the coach should motivate them every play

 

I personally do not. These are grown men who should be able to motivate themselves. The issue is how the players are brought up from high school to college. Yes, these children still have to know concepts... but personally, that is all they need to know. Motivation should be from within oneself and not external forces.



Otherwise, you run into players who could be dependent on coaches who constantly motivate. Again, not stating they should not if the entire team is going up against quite the task (Chuck Noll did *motivate* his team before the '74 AFC Championship Game), but only use such psychological methods when they are needed.. not in excess.

 

Beautiful and powerful... These fools are motivated by money these days. Them boys back then weren't overpaid investments. Majority of em had to have a real job in the off season.

If Tomlin were tell Ben or Brown he'd fire them, they'd laugh in his face.

 

hey zeus

yep

thisworks

send all the players to their room
or
don't giveem their allowance
or
cut their phone time down

 

There will never be another Chuck Noll. His teams won the games they were supposed to win and even a few they weren't supposed to win. He had his team well prepared and ready to play every.single.week. Miss the Emperor.

 

This is the age of contracts. This includes the CBA. My question remains: How much leverage does a coach really have, anymore?

 

the answer is none. that's why these guys can do whatever they want off or on the field. they know if they are healthy and the league hasn't suspended them, then the coach will play them. they have to play the best players cause if they don't, they are gone.

ex. marvin lewis with burfict and garrett with all his idiots. beckham. the list goes on and on

 

Tom Coughlin basically said on MNF a couple of weeks ago that this CBA is a disaster for the league.

 

Does not matter to Roger Goodell considering he is constantly attempting to sharply increase the NFL revenue by any means possible even if it means at the expense of people that are not the players.

 

My next question is how does Belichick do it. He must have some crazy leverage with the Patriots organization.

It's hard for me to believe that a coach can't just bench players. Per the CBA, I know they have minimal padded practices. So, the coach can't beat them up with additional practices. Other than that, the option is to bench players.

What's crazy is that Ben is complaining that Tomlin is too rough with practice and it's hurting the players. And then Ben talks about needing to clean the offense up because they are underperforming. Yet, he complains about the coach being strict.

This is all sounds like something untoward is going on behind the scenes. We may never know the whole story. I fear Noll, Lombardi, etc. would not have fared well in this current NFL.

 

Hmmmm... I may have to search for that interview. Did you see that live, or did you see a re-broadcast of the video? If it was a re-broadcast, then could you point me in the right direction?

 

I saw it live. He was talking about how players don't get to practice like they used to and things like that. It was when the Giants were on MNF a couple of weeks ago. I can't actually remember who they even played that night but he was talking about it on the broadcast because he got brought in to the booth since he was there to be honored by the team.

 

Rah Rah stuff works in Highschool... not in the pros. Lets face it... when you are 10 years in the league this is a job that you approach as a craftsman of technique and skill, not as a maniac numbskull who is hopped up on some speech.

Thats why I'm surprised Ray Lewis trashed Flacco in the media recently for not being a Rah Rah guy. It just doesn't carry the day. It gets old.

 

Exactly, much different times from when the Emperor ruled to what we have now. The times have dramatically changed.

 

Huge difference between motivating and having prepared.

Noll and Cowher had the players prepared.

Tomlin, not so much.

 

But Noll also said (via Andy Russell) that the habits you acquire on the practice field will be demonstrated on game day.

The issue is not motivation. You think Belichick or Parcells were motivators? No. They're tacticians.

Noll was the same way. So if we are trying to tie Noll philosophies to Tomlin, it's in the preparation, and not the motivation.

 

As critical as I am of Tomlin, there is something to this. And the earlier post regarding Coughlin's take on the CBA is also noteworthy.

Belichick is just a different beast. His teams are so well-prepared in terms of tactics and approach. They don't seem to worry about being physically prepared as much as being mentally prepared. It's amazing to me how little the team turns the ball over. How infrequently they take dumb penalties. How often their plays on offense are executed exactly as drawn up.

 

spygate is his leverage. everyone in that organization has to play nice cause I believe one person could blow it up

 

When the Patriots scrimmaged against the Redskins here in Richmond last year a local radio personality commented on how the Pats came out for the scrimmages like a military unit, highly organized from day one.

 

They were prepared in 2008 and 2010, when they went to the Super Bowl.

 

If I have to motivate you, I'll fire you.....

hear that Ladarius Green?? you and your nerves. you remind me of Limas Sweed

 

??? He's coming along

 

still Green tho

 

Noll also said "success is in the details". You have to be smart to really thrive in this league. Athleticism can really only take you so far. Everyone in the league is a great athlete but very few are great football players from an intellectual standpoint.