I think the worst part is this

I think "in position" would've a few more yards to put him in HIS range.

 

100% agree

 

I mostly agree....I am not drafting a QB, RB, or even OL unless a stud falls into our laps ala Decastro....But TE became a need as soon as they cut Saunders.....Pope and Paulson are both lacking......and even if I let TE pass.....I would take a tall speedy WR like Cordarrelle Patterson if I get the chance.


But other than that.....All Defense this year...2 DB's....3 LB's...no DL ...unless of course Ta'amu is cut.

HACK

 

I think the DL is the first to get replaced and then secondary. This team is getting smashed in the running game as the blockers are getting up into the second level way to easy, Ziggy Hood is oficially a bust in my book. In his defense he may be a good outside pass rusher but he isn't a run stopper and he can't get off a block to make a tackle. I've watched too many runs between the tackles and seeing him get stood up and pushed back by a single olineman allowing the RB to get passed him and at the same time it allows the TE or another lineman to get up and block the LBers. Keisel may be on the downside but he doesn't get stood up and pushed off the ball by a single olineman, in fact a lot of runs to his side they double team him so I think he is still serviceable this season. The other part is the pass game, while the DL is suppoed to eat up blocks for the LBers, they still need to penetrate and collapse the pocket but they can't and that allows clean throwing lanes for the underneath stuff. I was really hoping Ziggy would come on strong but it appears he isn't much better than mediocre, I'd say maybe a good backup when leading big to give other guys a break but that is about it.

 

To me I think the bright spot in the future of the D is going to be Heyward... I think he should start. Keisel is doing nothing out there. Heyward does show glimmer of what is to come.

If Sean Spence wasn't hurt he would definitely be a bright spot. That knee injury looked really devastating, hopefully he makes it back.

I think we need another OLB. Worlids isn't really showing me much and he is the best of the bunch. I will give him one more year though...maybe the light will come on.

Definitely need a safety in addition to Golden, but I think we can find one.

CB is what really concerns me. I think the type of CB we look for is becoming out dated. WE generally go for mid round CB's who dropped because of poor ball skills, but are fast enough and play the run well. These guys just aren't cutting it. We need some guys who are going to make some plays on the ball. We have drafted a lot of CB's over the past few years and each time I think for sure they will push out the guys ahead of them and it really isn't happening. I think it is a real concern. I wouldn't draft another CB if I were Kevin Colbert. I would definitely grab a high level FA who is a known commodity.

 

I've been begging for a corner forever but they just don't care. Lebeau wants linebackers because it's that and the nose tackle that make the 3-4 work. They feel as long as they pressure the qb they won't need a good cover-corner. But as we've seen this year we've generated basically no pressure whatsoever and our corners are getting eaten alive and exposed for the slouches they are. I'm also of the opinion that Carnell Lake needs to put his application in somewhere else. He's their coach right? Why just put it ALL on Tomlin and Lebeau? Let's spread the love a little more generously.

 

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I don't know if you can blame Lake though, if they aren't bringing in guys with natural ball skills and the pass rush stinks this will happen no matter who is coachin.

They should maybe change their philosophy and maybe draft guys with ball skills and teach them to want to tackle....that is something I think Lake can get guys to do rather easily.....

 

Yeah I definitely agree that we don't seem to look for the best ball hawks. I wish we would though. Rod Woodson is a DB coach in Oakland. I wouldn't mind giving him a call if they do decide to do some housecleaning among the coaching staff.

 

Don't say that on this board. You're only allowed to blame EVERYBODY ELSE BUT BEN for that loss.

 

I put in another thread how that when I was at the game and that play happened it was directly eye level and parallel to where I was sitting and it was like it happened in slow motion. I was watching Brown all the way and knew that he was covered. The fact that Ben threw that ball was so dumb I didn't even know what to say. I told my buddy "WHAT WAS HE THINKING? HE WAS COMPLETELY COVERED!!!" He said "maybe it was a timing route or something". But I HIGHLY doubt that was the case. Ben just tried to force it and I have no idea why. That play was a backbreaker for sure when you really look at the whole thing. IF Ben would've lived to play another play we could've settled for a field goal at that point and then the Titans would've just tied us at the end of the game. But as a whole Ben has made MUCH better decisions this year and has only thrown 2 int's the whole season. I will take that from Ben any day of the week.

 

Wait! Wait! You cant' insinuate that Ben had any fault in that loss!

 

Ben also missed Sanders wide open too. But he was under quite a bit of stress on that throw. If he had caught it then we would've definitely been in a better position.

 

You're right. It was a team fault...

1) Defense didn't stop Titans TD.
2) Ben and offense didn't execute to get the kicker in a good position (they already asked him to make a 52 yarder and he did; asking a 54 yarder was a bit much)
3) Tomlin called for the kick, but maybe the punt would have been the better option (but you know what they say about hindsight).


Still it was a TEAM failure, and Ben is a part of that team.

 

what about adams?

 

I'd have to look at replays but it seems the O-Line was still getting slung around.

 

Baron Batch got NEGATIVE 2 YARDS on the play to set up the field goal. That lets me know exactly what our O line was doing. Don't waste your time on the replay rukus.

 

They did clear the way for Batch's TD though. But they sold all they way out for that one and they were pretty much all on the ground when it was over.

 

Wasn't that the play where Adams sealed his guy off to the inside opening up a nice hole and Heath was out in front blocking the guy on the next level. Batch cut back into the scrum vice into the hole, it might have been a real nice gain had he cut off Adams. Batch seems to lack vision. Mendenhall woould have bounced that one right off Adams' hip for a nice gain.

 

Wasn't that the play where Adams sealed his guy off to the inside opening up a nice hole and Heath was out in front blocking the guy on the next level. Batch cut back into the scrum vice into the hole, it might have been a real nice gain had he cut off Adams. Batch seems to lack vision. Mendenhall woould have bounced that one right off Adams' hip for a nice gain.[/quote:3t67p4vc]
yes there was a nice hall on the right side but batch went other way , i agree he is good at blitzing pickup but lack of vision is evident ,he would ave gain at least 6 yards

 

Wasn't that the play where Adams sealed his guy off to the inside opening up a nice hole and Heath was out in front blocking the guy on the next level. Batch cut back into the scrum vice into the hole, it might have been a real nice gain had he cut off Adams. Batch seems to lack vision. Mendenhall woould have bounced that one right off Adams' hip for a nice gain.[/quote:1oongg5e]
yes there was a nice hall on the right side but batch went other way , i agree he is good at blitzing pickup but lack of vision is evident ,he would ave gain at least 6 yards[/quote:1oongg5e]

he ran to where he was supposed to to keep suisham in the middle of the field for his FG atempt.

 

Wasn't that the play where Adams sealed his guy off to the inside opening up a nice hole and Heath was out in front blocking the guy on the next level. Batch cut back into the scrum vice into the hole, it might have been a real nice gain had he cut off Adams. Batch seems to lack vision. Mendenhall woould have bounced that one right off Adams' hip for a nice gain.[/quote:3ny1eieq]
yes there was a nice hall on the right side but batch went other way , i agree he is good at blitzing pickup but lack of vision is evident ,he would ave gain at least 6 yards[/quote:3ny1eieq]

he ran to where he was supposed to to keep suisham in the middle of the field for his FG atempt. [/quote:3ny1eieq]
but was a second down we could have centered the ball on the third (when ben was scrambling)

 

Wasn't that the play where Adams sealed his guy off to the inside opening up a nice hole and Heath was out in front blocking the guy on the next level. Batch cut back into the scrum vice into the hole, it might have been a real nice gain had he cut off Adams. Batch seems to lack vision. Mendenhall woould have bounced that one right off Adams' hip for a nice gain.[/quote:o1lnq7re]
yes there was a nice hall on the right side but batch went other way , i agree he is good at blitzing pickup but lack of vision is evident ,he would ave gain at least 6 yards[/quote:o1lnq7re]

he ran to where he was supposed to to keep suisham in the middle of the field for his FG atempt. [/quote:o1lnq7re]
but was a second down we could have centered the ball on the third (when ben was scrambling)[/quote:o1lnq7re]

again, he did what he was told to do. with no inline lead blocker either. they have esentially made will johnson the 2nd blocking TE. mostly because our tackles can't be trusted on their own and we cut saunders our next best blocking TE. they keep digging themselves into a deeper hole trying to make up for deficiencies that they didn't take care of in the off season.

 

Wasn't that the play where Adams sealed his guy off to the inside opening up a nice hole and Heath was out in front blocking the guy on the next level. Batch cut back into the scrum vice into the hole, it might have been a real nice gain had he cut off Adams. Batch seems to lack vision. Mendenhall woould have bounced that one right off Adams' hip for a nice gain.[/quote:u9entl2x]
yes there was a nice hall on the right side but batch went other way , i agree he is good at blitzing pickup but lack of vision is evident ,he would ave gain at least 6 yards[/quote:u9entl2x]

he ran to where he was supposed to to keep suisham in the middle of the field for his FG atempt. [/quote:u9entl2x]
but was a second down we could have centered the ball on the third (when ben was scrambling)[/quote:u9entl2x]

again, he did what he was told to do. with no inline lead blocker either. they have esentially made will johnson the 2nd blocking TE. mostly because our tackles can't be trusted on their own and we cut saunders our next best blocking TE. they keep digging themselves into a deeper hole trying to make up for deficiencies that they didn't take care of in the off season. [/quote:u9entl2x]

This.