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I Can't Really Complain.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by S.T.D, Dec 25, 2024 at 6:27 PM.

  1. Trafalgar

    Trafalgar Well-Known Member

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    Wilson can pilot you to respectability and a an early playoff exit at best.
     
  2. Karl

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    I don't disagree entirely.
    The caveat is that you can't really do much about QB this off season... the options are very limited.
    You can draft QB that you can give chance to complete but likely to be QB 3 and eventually 2 - not a horrible plan.
    But Wilson is capable of winning, as long as he has weapons. Right now there's a cast of WalMart WR's not named Pickens, and he's a head case, and an underachieving TE
    The OL looks shabby...
    And there's a defense that disappears entirely at times.
    So, what do we really know about Wilson? Not much.
     
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  3. Trafalgar

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    I've seen enough of Wilson to know that he isn't good enough at this point in his career to carry a team on his back in the biggest games against the elite QB's and teams. And that in the end is what it is all about

    I don't know where the next franchise QB is coming from, but this 'aint it. Big Ben carried this teams poor coaching that's all clear as day now. It's not my job to acquire the next guy, it's my job to support the team and critique it how I see fit.

    I don't think the talent level is a sbad as the coaching is making it out to be, he was left without a WR#2 that's on Khan, that sunk the season, but to you really watch RW and ever think "Yup, he's going to lead us to the SB"? Really?

    I don't think hand on heart anyone does.

    The problem with this team is every season is the same and no-one is held accountable. This is the very definition of insanity.
     
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  4. HeinzMustard

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    But Colin Cowherd says CBs are worthless because the Jets suck and they have great corners......and CBs play the furthest from the ball. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Or complain they are not $100’s.
     
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  6. SteelerNole

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    I agree, but if we are a DL and CB away, they better be a DL and CB that will bring it, because most of the guys on this defense are soft.
     
  7. CK 13

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    The miss on Picket set this team back.

    The 2025 class seems to the experts not to be a strong QB class.

    Add that the fact they will be picking in the 20's again. A DT needs to be on the radar for the 1st round pick unless they trade UP for a QB.

    I would sign Wilson for 2 more seasons and draft a QB possibly in 2025 or 26. Again they will have to trade up.

    Need a solid #2 receiver via free agency.

    Fields is not the answer.

    So here we are again.
     
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  8. Karl

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    Again, I don't disagree entirely.
    But in case you missed it, I despise all the QB's on this team. Not one of them is anywhere near my idea of a QB.
    The plain simple point is that Wilson is really the only option - His career is over, he won't be problem in the transition, and he can play well enough to get 10-wins.
    Yes, I am painfully aware that it is very obvious that he has lost a step, holds the ball too long, does throw picks and sometimes audibles right into the defenses strength.
    No, Russell Wilson is not a Franchise QB, he is a stopgap....

    I place a lot more blame than most on Omar.
    I do have to buffer that by the fact he was handed the reins, and the team had just lost its franchise QB.
    But the WR incident sucks... that's a straight up 'F'
    I'm not at all impressed with his handling of the QB situation either.
    He makes a lot of moves but it is practice squad moves.

    As an owner, I would be having a sit down with Mr. Omar Khan and Mr. Andy Weidl to find out what we can do better.
    As you mentioned, there is talent here. It is a 10-win team this year. That's a 'window' in the NFL world.
     
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  9. mikeyg

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    dude, think

    JUST THINK

    several of those RATS games, they DID NOT CARE, they did not need them, etc.

    SEVERAL, Lamar was injured.

    and we still BARELY won any of those (we BARELY won the earlier game this year, as we relied on their K failing..... - NO TDs from us!)

    JUST THINK and look at each scenario individually, for what it was when it occurred. To just stare at numbers / stats is so juvenile!
     
  10. mikeyg

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    Big time. this too is on Tomlin / Colbert.

    Coaches get fired for this stuff, but not Tomlin. Just keep the band playing, is what Rooney says!!!!

    But as has been stated, they 'missed' many years ago, by failing to see Ben's abilities diminishing rapidly and not planning whatsoever any sort of transition. It is never easy to move on from a Legend, and we are in the doldrums of that. Tomlin should have left when Ben did.
     
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  11. OB1

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    It's interesting to see people who expected mediocrity coming into the season, are happy the team ended up mediocre. God forbid, the team over achieves.
     
  12. HeinzMustard

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    I predicted 7-10. Hate to say it.... but that would have been better than the usual 9-10 wins, 7th seed and quick playoff exit.

    With only 7 wins... heads would have rolled and there would have been some turnover in the coaching ranks. Now... we'll get status quo again for the foreseeable future.

    Success now for the Steelers franchise is a winning record and playoff appearance. Nothing more needed. The standard has been altered.
     
  13. Jball

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    I don't think anybody thinks that any of our QB's are "it". This incoming class isn't great. I wouldn't mind if they took a chance on someone like Ewers or Dart if they fell to the 3rd, and tried to develop them for a year or two. They both have tools to work with, but they're projects that aren't gonna help next year.

    The only "upgrade" for next year, that I could imagine, is if they took a run at Darnold. And, that's a huge gamble, and highly unlikely.

    Realistically, they're gonna just have to sign Russ, continue to build the team, and make a move in the 2026 draft for a QB. So, get comfortable cause they probably won't be serious contenders for at least 3 years. That's IF they hit big time on a draft pick.
     
  14. Trafalgar

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    Oh I don't know some people think Najee Harris is "it" so there much be plenty who think RW can take us all the way.

    They haven't been serious contenders for years, they have made one AFCC in 13 years and got molly-whopped in that, so what new?

    Same coach, same approach, same lack of accountability, same platitudes, same cliches, same movie.
     
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  15. strummerfan

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    The only people that are “happy” are the torch and pitchfork crowd. They get to whine more and claim how right they were. There are some that can look at the team, see the holes, and say we aren’t quite there yet.
     
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  16. HeinzMustard

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    I'm not convinced the "holes" in the roster being upgraded would help any. Khan will do well this offseason in free agency and draft. But.... Coaching does matter and Steelers need a fresh approach they won't get from Popcorn.

    Steelers were not competitve vs Eagles, Ravens or Chiefs. If they were... the game would have went down to the wire at the end of the 4th quarter. All 3 of those games were lost by the 3rd quarter. Just like Steelers last AFCCG appearance vs. Patriots.
     
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  17. Vox Ferrum

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    This....Look at some of the different successful teams in the league, the one thing I see consistently is dependable weapons. Yes, Mahomes or some QB with unbelievable talent can make up for less talent, but the steelers have a guy who could be top 5 or higher, but so moody the talent is undependable. another guy who shows flashes, but is not a true number 2. Muth could be a top TE, but there is a list of reasons he is not, some on him, some not. The team has moved from the lower levels in rushing the last couple of years to being in the top 10, but inconsistent and predictable. Do I think Russ is going to give you the stats of Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, or Burrows, no. Surround him the capable talent I also believe he still is much more than a game manager.
     
  18. Trafalgar

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    It's not one or two seasons, it is years and years of the same ****, people can recognise patterns after a while, it's a shame Steelers decision makers from Art down can't see the same patterns and act upon them.

    The only thing Art learned after watching yet another late season shambles last year, was that the best course of action was to reward the architect with a new contract.
     
  19. Trafalgar

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    The problem is not talent, it is coaching.
     
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  20. HeinzMustard

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    We need some better players on OL and DT/DE.... but yeah, I agree.... it's coaching also.

    Once Steelers are better in the trenches.... the LBs and DB's will be better, plus the QB, RBs TE's and WRs will execute plays better.
     
  21. Trafalgar

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    Yeah, of course there's areas to improve upon, every team can poke at a hole or two, but the talent level on this team is upper third in the league at least.

    But the coaching we have is clearly bottom third overall.
     
  22. Vox Ferrum

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    That is the sad thing. I said at the beginning of the year this team could get 7 wins or 12, the league is just built that way. We could have easily won a couple we lost, we could have just as easily lost a couple we won. What i really wanted to see was this team to be competitive in the games you mentioned. Would have felt the pain in the losses, but at least could have felt we were making strides in the building of this team, instead I am seeing the same old crap, Popcorn is not going anywhere, but the development in many areas of this team need new blood. Somehow I feel like Art will look at the running game being in the top 10 as something special, but the line still sucks in fundamentals, the schemes in D are obviously old and flawed.
     
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  23. strummerfan

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    oh noes we lost to 3 of the best teams in the NFL. Let’s ignore the fact that we turned the ball over multiple times in those games. Let’s also ignore the impact on winning and losing turnovers actually have. By god it’s popcorn’s fault Wilson threw a pick 6. By god it’s popcorns fault Wilson fumbled on the two yard line. Hear me whine! Someone must listen to me whine! I mother loving demand you listen to me whine!
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

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    I'll be whining until the O line improves and we get some real DTs and DEs. :cool:
     
  25. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    You’ve been whining the same dumb crap for decades
     

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