Hypothetical Belichick question

If Belichick was the HC of the 2012 Pittsburgh Steelers, and Mike Tomlin was the coach of the 2012 New England Patriots, what do you think each teams' record would be? Could Belichick take the current talent on this team and take it to the next level? The Pats are such a fundamentally sound, well coached football team who don't shoot themselves in the foot with dumb penalties, turnovers and poor in game coaching decisions. They also almost never come out flat against an inferior team and that is attributable to excellent coaching. When they play a team that's a huge underdog they go for the jugular early instead of allowing the team to hang around until the end and giving them an opportunity to steal a win. I hate to be so complimentary about a team that I loathe, but the Pats are like a well oiled machine.

I know this a huge hypothetical and it may be unfair to compare Tomlin, or any coach, to Belichick, but humor me would ya?

 

I think we would look like the Pats currently do and the Pats would look like the Steelers have this year. Belichek makes all the difference in the world. An argument could be made that if Brady hadn't been paired up with Belichek that Brady never would have turned into a HOF'er. Sure, Brady is clearly an elite QB now and will remain elite no matter who is his coach, but during his development years, I can't help but wonder if Belichek turned him into what he is now. Belichek made Matt Cassell look like a pro bowler, and that's no easy task.

 

We'd have at least 4 more rings by now. I hate the team and I hate Belicheat but no doubt in my mind he would have this more SB rings. I ll go as far as saying we wouldve won 3 in a row.

 

he would have traded a trash can and ben for brady and 10 other players and won 4 rings.

 

I don't like Belichick as a person, but I will have to say that he's one dam fine game prepper (cheating aside). There have been arguably less-talented Pats teams that have gone far in the past under his reign simply from his ability to study and exploit another team's hidden weakness, and to me that's the sign of a true coach - getting the most out of what you have, even if each player is only average individually.

What a concept.

 

Bellicheck attacks opposing teams weaknesses whereas Tomlin relies on the talent we have to instill whatever will power that the Steelers have to defeat any NFL calibre team no matter where their weakness lies.

Everyone can be a salesman but some can sell a glass of water to a drowning man. Bellicheck is that type of salesman.

 

I don't think Belichick would have any patience for Roethlisberger's undisciplined style of play. He would trade him for someone that would run his system rather than extend the play. Belichick can work with people that adopt his philosophy but gets rid of players that do not fit in. I don't believe Roethlisberger would not fit in with the Belichick system

But Belichick is the a great coach and would definitely improve the Steelers, as Tomlin gains the experience of Belichick he will also improve.

 

From what I have gathered, Belichick approaches football like military strategy. Remember, his "right-hand man" is Ernie Adams, a military strategist himself, and a lip reader and code breaker. (Google search Ernie Adams to learn more about this guy.) His official title is "Football Researcher." Hmmm... The "videotaping" controversy, to me, was just one piece in an entire sophisticated system that Adams and Belichick use for scouting opponents. Imagine a poker player who has a researcher on board who spends 100 hours a week studying the habits of every great poker player in the world. The Patriots have a file on every coach's tendencies and thorough scouting reports on every player. I know every team has this, but not like the Pats do.

The Patriots' offensive system is such a well-olied machine that it can spend its entire practice prepping for its opponent. Other teams in the NFL work on themselves in practice. The Patriots practice with their opponent in mind. hence, why they are the most prepared team week in and week out.

 

The Patriots tend to stumble in the post-season because their opponents now spend more time scouting them. During the regular season, the Pats "out prep" their opponents. No doubt about it. But in January and February, ALL teams are now ramping up the scouting and tape watching.

 

It depends if the rooneys would let him cheat or not like kraft does

 

that's the problem he can blast bench change charts but nobody feel fear or pain because he his such a well spokeman , he should have blast people all the week for what went wrong the week before even if we won in baltimore to prepare for the chargers , he has to be more like a sergent but is not in his carachter

 

Oh, not since 2004. Oh yeah and he won the Super Bowl in 2001 and 2003 also and lost in the Super Bowl in 2007 and 2011. He has been to the Super Bowl 5 of the last eleven years, won it three times and has good shot at making it to the Superbowl again. I think he qualifies for his "mythical aura."

 

Well, I am proud of the Steelers, enjoy rooting for them and think they have a successful season every time they make it to the championship game.

 

You may be on to something there TE. Belichick is a very cerebral coach and he demands that his players work to develop their football IQs. Not all of his players are the most talented but they almost always make the right decisions on the football field and that is a product of good coaching. With Tomlin it's more about getting pumped up and winning the game of attrition. He focuses more on the physical aspect of the game as opposed to the mental aspect where you outthink your opponent.

 

He could take hisn and beat yourn than take yourn and beat hisn......Dats da way it goes

 

Bum was quite the character. Never kicked the door in though.

 

Bill would be pretty normal with out Tom....Tom makes everybody look good.


HACK

 

It's like the age old question, which came first the chicken or the egg? Did Brady make Belichick or did Belichick make Brady? I recall Brady not being much more than a game manager who was charged not to lose the game when he first started but under Belichick's tutelage he's developed into so much more than that now.

 

Brady is nothing without Bill. Brady is a hard worker and very studious, but I really don't find him to be that amazing of a QB when it comes down to it. Bill has figured out the strengths of his QB and tailored an offense to magnify those strengths.

I would buy into the greatness of Brady a lot more if Cassel wasn't able to step into his shoes and pretty much do the same thing Brady was doing for the entire season.

 

I was thinking of the TE, thank you!

Not saying Tomlin is the next Belichick, but remember that he's been in the league for a lot longer. Our coach is a very young guy who still has some growing to do.