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How long will the rebuild take?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Ytownsteeler, Oct 5, 2021.

  1. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    Steelers base D isn't even a 3-4 anymore, they run Nickle and Dime most of the time.
     
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  2. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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  3. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    What in the literal **** is with this thread? Trade for Mac Jones? Trey Lance? Either add the green text or lay off the drugs and booze lol
     
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  4. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    We’re talking about a decision that doesn’t need to be made until after this season. They loved Lance enough to trade up for him based on tape vs. FCS opponents, their pre-draft assessment of his abilities, and whatever interactions they had with him. Come March, they will have had him in house for a full season and can make a much more informed assessment. If they have big question marks, they could decide to make a run for the sure thing in Rodgers and shoot for a ring next year.
     
  5. HeinzMustard

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    Roethlisberger, Luck
     
  6. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    He lost the Playoff game. What a bum:)
     
  7. SDOT

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    Nickle, yes. Dime, no. We're running no Dime this year. How do I know? They traded for Schobert and he's on the field getting burned on passing downs. Is Highsmith a 4-3 lineman? No. He was drafted for the 3-4 system and shoehorned into being an edge rusher. So that gets back to my point. We draft players based on 3-4 system so that's our base D as far as I'm concerned. That's where our problem and a lot of confusion comes from imo. We need to just to make the switch to 4-3. Draft corners that are best in man not zone.
     
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  8. HeinzMustard

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    Agree. 4-3 is a lot easier to draft for... and more effective against the better QBs. Been saying it for years.... Steelers should have started drafting for 4-3 after SBXLV loss. That ship sailed long ago.
     
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  9. S.T.D

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    So We should draft CB that aren't good in Zone with Lamar in our division. You do know there is a reason Lamar Has not been very successful against US right. It's called Zone.
    Look at His losses, and Wins...His biggest games are against Man, and What Running Qbs Wouldn't be? :shrug:
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Tampa Bay did Well with it 3-4 last year against Mahomes my Friend :shrug:
     
  11. Lambert

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    Hey, let's not go crazy now.
     
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  12. HeinzMustard

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    yeah, but Tampa has a better D-line and Devin White shows up in the playoffs.
     
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  13. SDOT

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    Like I said our defense only works against low IQ QBs and ones who can't consistently make throws. So we're going to keep this style of defense to beat Lamar and lose to Brady, Rodgers, Burrow, Wilson, etc.
     
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  14. SDOT

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    Exactly. Bush isn't what we thought he would be or worth all the draft capital. But running more dime and only having him as a "LB" in coverage couldn't be any worse than this piug and play strategy with LBs. Problem is we can't develop DBs.
     
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  15. Steelrules

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    Herbert. That kid is going to be very good
     
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  16. SC Gamecock

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    IMHO, we don't need a franchise QB, not with this team. Once the o-line has some time to gel, we just need a QB who can manage a game. The defense we have IS elite, the problem is the offense isn't helping them by possessing the ball longer.
     
  17. PWP

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    Draft 2 man to man CB'S as has been stated then take a late round WR with mad speed and bad hands and convert him to deep Single High Safety ..We have the guys upfront this would allow another Defender in the box and force Teams to try and go deep..Basically the same thing Teams are doing to us at this point a good running game and timely passing and we have a chance to win esp. in the post season when the bad weather comes..

    Go with Dobbs and build the D for a year or 2 if that not work then go get the QB.. A mobile QB will help the running game and allow the OL to learn how to play together.. So if I Coach I would go this way as we already have a RB a TE and a deep threat so mobile QB timely throws and press man defense throw that zone and zone blitz crap in the trash..
     
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  18. PWP

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    Not elite yet we need man to man CB'S and a speedy FS ...
     
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  19. bigbenhotness

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    This. There are still too many holes in the secondary. If a line can stop the pass rush we get carved up. Also can’t stop the run
     
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  20. HeinzMustard

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    The defense is elite as long as all the starters are there and healthy. Without Alualu at NT.... this defense is nowhere near elite.
     
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  21. Steel_Elvis

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    Why not just pick up a speedy WR who is an overdrafted, 1st round bust who didn’t work out for his first two teams? I’m surprised you haven’t come up with this strategy.
     
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  22. Steelrules

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    History isn’t on our side if we don’t have a franchise QB. Since 2000, only the 2000 Ravens, 2002 Bucs and 2017 Eagles won w/o a franchise player or stud for QB
     
  23. OX1947

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    Not even a day after I posted my Aaron Rodgers idea. Stephen A Smith went on a rant that pissed off Molly on ESPN......




    Then, the follow up after that was Colin Cowherd on FOX....




    The Steelers have two choices after this season. You go full throttle and get Aaron Rodgers. Or you risk being the Jets or Giants trying to find the next guy. The Steelers already did this in their history once, it took them 21 years to find their next franchise QB.

    Took them 26 seasons to win their next Super Bowl. They are already 13 seasons since their last one WITH their franchise QB.
     
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  24. SC Gamecock

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    def agree. I told my cousin when he went down that he’s a much bigger loss than people realize
     
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  25. chris2fer

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    Who’s the coach?
     

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