How good is Tomlin vs the rest

He’s going to get a Few more years to get it done no matter what, so deal. I think that’s the right thing to do too,keep in mind we’re only one year out from a HOF QB retiring and now we’re in the playoffs. I have to admit that’s a tough feat to do with new QBs and as much as I can complain about him I have to give credit where it’s due. We’ll all have plenty of time later to critique him while he builds a new team. Having Khan is a step in the right direction IMHO.

BUT, It’s SuperBowl or bust for us Steelers fans and that means every year, so deal with that too. I for one am not going to apologize for that and I really don’t care what the Rich Eisen’s of the world or this board have to say about it. I’m a Steelers’ fan not a gawd awful Jets fan, thankfully.


The debate switch is off now as I’m in SB or bust mode. He’s got our team there and if only a chance that’s enough for me. That’s hope. Go Steelers!

 

I will say the same thing, Coach Tomlin was a relative unknown that came in and impressed them in the interview, Cowher was not a big name either. I want them to complete a thorough interview process and find our next Head Coach. I think Mike's shortcomings in how he manages the team will not lead us to another Super Bowl and 17 years is enough. Do I have the guy on the top my head no, I feel what I see is a Coach that will not get us to the Super Bowl because the weaknesses he has shown will rear their head again and to go deep in the playoffs and win it all you have to better than we have been for a number of years. I get it you would resign him for 5 maybe even 10 more years, I am in the camp of ready to move on and the fear of it being worse before it gets better would not paralyze me from making that decision.

Having said all that, it is a discussion for the off season, we ride with who we have at this point. Glad we have a game to watch next week and just hope its not a blowout at our expense.

 

The Eagles did fire Pederson and Reid. If your question is do I think the eagles should fire the 2022 coach of the year who took his team to the superbowl last season and has his team in the playoffs this season, of course not, dont be ridiculous. The obvious difference is that Sirianni is a 3rd year head coach who had his squad in the postseason all three of his seasons compared to a guy who hasn't won a playoff game in 7 years and missed the postseason last year. Any more stupid questions?

Edit: I should also add that Tomlin got a lot of latitude early on after winning the SB with Cowher's players and was in no jeopardy of getting fired when he missed the playoff completely the year after he won the SB. Your whole premise is whack AF.

 

I see Tomlin as a good coach not great but good in some areas and weak in others.
The players love him and play hard for him ( not counting the recent antics of # 14 ) , he is obviously a good motivator . Those are all good qualities for a coach .

Some claim defensive coaches don t do well with offense I would disagree. A defensive coach has to understand offense so he can figure out how to stop them.
Tomlin was slow to react to just how bad Canada was and we wasted the better part of two years. Tomlin does not seem to make many in game adjustments and his clock management has never been a strength.

The biggest difference I see with the Steelers in the last ten years is poor drafting and the depth of the entire roster is not where it needs to be .
Too many reaches, too many tweeners he is a safety/corner or a LB/SS. I am just guessing but I suspect Tomlin got more n more involved in the draft and yes coaches play a roll in the draft. But the philosophy changed we used to be best player available, lately it's like we need a corner and the top three are gone take that guy from Maryland that can play corner n safety.

If you look at some drafts with in 4 or 5 yrs there is no one left , 4 or 5 yrs after a draft there should be 6 or 7 core players in their prime. Maybe not all starters but key backups nickel or dime guys special team aces.

Not sure if it is the team being cheap or Tomlin not investing the time and effort to get better coaches on his staff.

The Steelers should of drafted Pouncey's replacement 2 yrs before he retired , it was pretty obvious he was getting pushed around, instead they waited and thought a guard who played 5 or 6 games at center could replace a former all pro at center. Those kind of mistakes add up yr after yr.

 

Ok, but for a fair debate....between the coaching....you can't go by just the last 7 years.....You must go the 1st 3 years....now compare the eagles HC to Tomlin. This is My problem with the comparing of coaches....because if a coach coaches long enough....I can find bad years . So if You are comparing Tomlin with Eagles HC....do it equally. Boths 1st 3 years.

 

This guy believes Sirianni should get the boot!! Not that I would agree with his assessment.

 

You didn't see my edit. Tomlin was in no jeopardy of getting fired in year 3 when he didn't even make the postseason the year after winning the Lombardi in year 2 with Cowher's players.

 

I don't recall anyone calling for Tomlins head in year 3.

 

Sorry...I didn't see that part. My bad.

 

NP. I was thinking the same thing you were after I posted it so went back to edit.

I'll also add that eagles fans are pissed off and very concerned right now.

 

I’m not sure what makes you think that stuff and you may be correct. However, players like Watt, Harris and others have the completely opposite opinion of him. They indicate that he certainly has not lost the locker room and in fact, he is the reason it stayed together through the stresses of change. He did everything a good leader should and they say that. I have to believe they know better than u or I.

 

Agreed the players love playing for him but does that mean you get the absolute best out of them. I like an easy boss but that doesn't mean its the best. I dont like the lack of discipline and not holding selfish behavior accountable, AB, Pickens and even Ben. They catered to Ben but in reality Whiz was the best OC but Ben didn't like the stern approach. But he's my coach for now and I hope we catch lightning but after the season is over I hope we move on. Just my opinion and you have yours. Either way gotta root for my team!!

 

So, the current Philly coach went to a Super Bowl and Coach of the year with someone else’s players? That’s you stupid premise? That players coach themselves and the coach in his second year has nothing to do with it? Do you understand how stupid you sound? You bash Tomlin and say he won with someone else’s players, then you quote the Philly coach as the 2022 coach of the year who has gone to the playoffs each year? So one did it with someone else’s players, and the other what, signed 53 different players? And lastly, only one of them won the Super Bowl. You are completely clueless, oh I mean “whack”

 

Interpret it however you want. Comparing Sirianni in year 3 to Tomlin in year 17 is the definition of apples and oranges. If you can't see that then I'm not sure what to tell you.

 

Tomlin won a Super Bowl with an all star team. Cowher left him with a stud of a team which I felt like Cowher would have gotten at least two and maybe three more rings with. That has been 15 years ago after this season. Tomlin has a losing record in his playoff career. He is 8-9 and 5 of those wins were in the first two years with Cowhers players! He has only won 4 playoff games since then. I don’t see him leading a team to the Super Bowl. His charisma is just wrong

 

I’ll dumb it down: you seem to complement Sirianni for his accomplishments in his first three years without mentioning that his players were someone else’s. When you referred to Tomlin in his first three years you immediately credited his success to someone else. The situations are basically the same, both coaches stepped into a team that had recently won a Super Bowl. One of them won Coach of the year and one won the actual Super Bowl. But you say it’s ridiculous to suggest that Sirianni could be fired and you seemed to say he’s done very well in his first three but with Tomlin, you credited the prior coach. I don’t know what else I can do to help you understand your obvious bias and stupidly. Tomlin isn’t going anywhere, give up and get a Raiders jersey.

 

What happened in 2006? And how are they”Cowher’s” players? That’s a stupid statement.

 

Stopped reading after "complement". Dumb it down... that's rich.

 

TOMLIN about change the postseason narrative. Can’t wait to see his game-plan and adjustments come Sunday. The wrong team is favored by 10 points.

 

Here is what you are failing to comprehend nobody wanted Tomlin fired after 3 years either.

 

I know that, what I’m trying to tell you is that they won’t credit him with what he did in his first three years. They alway say he only won with Cowhers players. He didn’t say that about Sirianni. Is that plain English? Holy shi)!!

 

Ok, acknowledge

 

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