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Here You Go. Make Of It What you Will.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by S.T.D, Sep 21, 2023.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    And pray tell what Have You heard Me say that about besides Canada, and Ben???
    You are coming into this late, and judging.
    It would be like walking into a room where a guy is beating the $hit out of a bunch if people, and saying He must be the bad guy ....without knowing the story. Not knowing if He was defending Himself. If You notice the Guys beside you that have complained about this....let me give You a hint. They where some that were saying it.
    Now instead of admitting they were wrong they complained I'm happy because I was correct. ..., and I don't even want to be correct till people say I don't know anything. I want everyone, and thing on this team to be awesome.
    I believe My old man called it....You can dish it out, but You better be able to take it. When You lose don't go groveling away....
     
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  2. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. You're right. I just walked into "this room".
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    You basically did. How many people, and times have You heard say to me....oh so You don't think Canada is the fault. Why because they weren't on Here when we hired Him. Of course I think Canada is the fault. He's just not the only fault. If they were on when we hired Him...they wouldn't bother to ask.
     
  4. groutbrook

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    I know you would never group me in with 'these people', but I read very few of your posts until you stopped replacing words with numbers. Maybe I wasn't alone.
     
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  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    This is a message board

    Some people have been in this room for 12 years
     
  6. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Half the time he says that, the statement was made before he joined the board!
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Thats in your head, bro.

    You know how many times you have been wrong over the course of your life? Do you walk into the room and make a big announcement each time? This is a message board where lots of opinions are exchanged back and forth. Sometimes people are right and sometimes they are wrong. Not a big deal.

    Really man, relax. You seem to be taking it personally when people disagree with you.
     
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  8. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    This thread makes me hope our offense explodes in Vegas. Change the depressing conversation.
     
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  9. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    I always enjoy saying F Canada. It's always a good chuckle and opposing fans thinking something happened with the country.
     
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  10. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    I don't like this guy's break down.

    First play.
    1. He accused Kenny of escaping a clean pocket. This image says other wise.
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    2. He said Kenny should have thrown deep to pickens. But the only reason the CB broke back, was because Kenny was dumping it off.


    Third play he accused Kenny of not seeing pickens open. But he fails to understand this was a designed play. You throw that asap.if you don't, you're not going to give Harris room to run, which results in a loss.
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    Next drive interception. I agree he failed.



    But then he goes into how another throw would have been an interception if it wasn't for being bated down..... but what he does is shows it a complete couple seconds after. So yes it does look like that..... but if you actually see when the ball was touched, no way that LB would have got a pick.
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    And I'm not going to continue any further. With someone being countless wrong in their film break down, so they'll more than likely continue. And also the guy is intentionally lying.
     
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  11. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Good job @Mashburn@Mashburn

    I had watched this whole video and had a bunch of handwritten notes that I was going to type up in a post, but I just had no time.

    First play - you hit it on the head. What KP is seeing is a large white jersey beating Chuks to the inside and crashing the pocket. Nothing clean about it.

    Harris pass - agree. That was almost certainly designed, and not KP leaving a play on the table.

    Later in the film the guy blames Conner Heyward for missing a block on the play where Najee reversed field from left to right for a big gain. Actually Moore was annihilated at the snap and put Heyward in a situation where he had to try to stop a DE with a full head of steam.

    The guy does go after the O line later in the film, so he didn’t absolve the line, but he’s flat wrong about a lot on this film.

    That said, KP was very bad. There were plenty of plays where the criticism is fair. To me the worst may have been the miss of Austin on a shallow cross that should have been a huge play. Why KP waited on that is a big head scratcher and has me pessimistic about his development. That was taking candy from a baby on a well-designed play.

    There are many issues with the offense. KP is issue #1, but the O line is really close. How big of an issue is Canada? I think he’s a problem as well, but there have been missed opportunities in the passing game.
     
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  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    just a theory. glenn thomas was added and now kenny stinks. do we have this kid thinking too much and not just playing? :cool:
     
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  13. shaner82

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    Brock Purdy isn't getting hit every pass, far from it. I don't have the advanced metrics for week 3 so far, but Purdy was knocked down 5 times through the first 2 weeks. That puts him right about the middle of the league. If he was getting hit every time he threw the ball, those numbers would be much higher. I did watch the Thursday night game, but I prefer to go by real stats, which I couldn't find yet.

    Nobody said Shanahan can make every QB great. Of course he can't. Players still need to be able to execute, especially a QB, but coaches can either help or hinder their chances.

    It's significantly harder to make a QB great than it is to establish a strong running game, for example. QB's are more on an island than any other player. My Mike Shanahan example though was to show that coaching matters a great deal. It didn't matter who he had at RB or OL, he had a very strong running game. Hell, he traded away a pro bowl RB and didn't miss a beat.

    I also think Purdy would be terrible here. Shanahan didn't necessarily make Purdy, but he made it as easy as possible for him to succeed

    Just look at Seumalo. Why was he so good for Philly and suddenly he's playing bad? Are the guys around him bringing him down, or is it perhaps that play design, play calls, and other aspects of coaching are affecting their play?
     
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  14. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Did I say every pass??? Hell I might have....I will have to look. I mean every big play on Monday night He was getting Hit, and, or having to stare down the Defender coming right at Him. Don't believe....you don't even have to watch the whole game.....go look at just the highlights. There is a reason they go through multiple Qbs every year. Here You go....tell Me how many times???
     
  15. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.

    I'm surprised you went all the way thru it.

    But yes, I agree pickett isn't what I thought he was going to be. In fact last year after the bye he looked better than this...... however Canada has got to go.
     
  16. Steelvision

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    the line needs to handle a 5+ man rush better, also make changes on the line. And KP needs to learn to use his mobility to find space to work and make faster reads. I think he can do it - he showed it last year with a 4 man rush, Trubisky couldn’t even do that.
     
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