George Pickens Rips Steelers in Instagram Comment: ‘Cheapest Organization’

You value these players more than the 31 other teams do, most in the media said the Steelers got good value for Pickens. They got a third round pick and two seventh round picks for a bust in Pickett, but you're complaining about the return .

 

Wait, what? Trade Pickens without any backstory or explanation? For a 3rd round pick? And if Pickens was a model citizen why would the org want to trade him?

And are you also saying the NFL scouts lied about Pickens problems in their draft evaluations? My, that is some conspiracy against the man.

 

I'm not defending the team per se; I'm taking the simplest answer. I can't prove the stories are true anymore than you can prove they're false. I do agree that teams lie, but trying to pick out when? There's a fine line between thinking critically and over-thinking.

You keep saying the players were given away, which ignores market value. I thought they maybe could've gotten more for Pickett, but Pickens, no. I'm assuming you were thinking a second? Do you think the reports about other teams laughing at the idea of having them in their locker room were manufactured, too?

If they kept him and he kept it together this season, the best comp they would've gotten was end of the third. I'll give you that that isn't that much worse than where Dallas' thrid rounder will be, but *if* the reports are true I can understand where the PTB said no to keeping him one more year.

 

So? Johnson and Pickens are separate human beings. Just because the former did something doesn't mean the latter will.

 

No, I'm saying they leaked additional things that take some of the crap we know about him to another level as a way to cover for not doing better in the deal. I'm not even sure that happened, but you have an organization that lies (as they all do) with motive to lie, so that calls the leaks into question.

 

What I was thinking was if they couldn't get a second, it wasn't worth moving him. At the very least, it was worth waiting to see if they could get more as they did with Claypool, who was a lesser player.

If they were true is the operative phrase there.

 

You left out the fourth-round pick they sent back in the Pickett deal. Maybe that was the issue, that you didn't even know what was in the trade.

 

Agreed.


Not only that, CeeDee could use someone to take pressure off of him even though he can carry the load himself. Adding in a fully focused Pickens will do wonders.

 

I remember Slash's dad saying he was happy his son was put of that hell hole of Pittsburgh.

 

i had to re read that twice to get it!!!!!!11 However my current state of being should be severly questioned!!!!

 

Initially I wanted a second as well, but it became obvious heading into the draft that the market wasn't there. At that point I figured they'd keep him and check the market again at the trade deadline. But when I looked over recent WR deadline deals that involved a receiver somewhat close to Pickens' situation, there didn't appear to be a second-rounder in the cards there, either.

I would've been okay with him playing out the year, but ever since Khan pursued Aiyuk I had a feeling Pickens was on a clock. When they got Metcalf and committed $130M to him, the writing was on the wall. At that point I figured there were some things going on behind the scenes on top of what we were seeing and hearing about.

 

Glad he's gone now, but we have to stop taking chances on these bozo's, talent without application is useless.

 

This explains some of the things going on, including in broad daylight in the middle of games. And there is a claim that Metcalf is actually a better fit in Smith's offense than was Pickens:

https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/...&content=8a36dd40-457f-47db-b912-b28394e8169b

Sorry if this was already posted.

 

This was my thoughts when it comes to the facility. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to invest in nicer facilities and support staff to attract players.

As for Pickens, I think he was referring to himself getting paid. As others mentioned, he would have had DK'S deal if he could have shown to be a #1 with a steady head on his shoulders.

He was sitting pretty before DK and they were analyzing him to see if he was the guy.

He wasn't. They moved on. The huge contract DK got could have been his. Not cheap on that front.

You failed to show it George. Good luck in Dallas.

 

When did I claim they lied about Johnson? I didn’t, so your premise falls apart right there.

I also never claimed Pickens was a non-problem player. He took plays off. I was harshly critical of him for that. What I am saying is they are making up additional issues to try to make a bad trad look better, especially since it seems as if they made the same mistake as last season, failing to secure an adequate replacement at receiver.

Of course, my argument doesn’t look as strong if you have parts of it wrong, which you did.

 

If the market isn’t there, don’t trade him. Show some patience, at least until they can acquire an adequate replacement, which got more difficult the moment they traded Pickens.

 

No, but they can do it quietly, anonymously. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think it is much easier for many folks to believe that Pickett and Pickens were the bad guys than to admit that the inmates are often running the asylum and the Steelers are making scapegoats of those players to cover up their organizational flaws. Given the team's lack of discipline and that this sort of thing keeps happening, I'm inclined to distrust things that clearly come from the Steelers.

You can certainly argue for your side, but to claim my argument isn't strong simply is not true.

 

Tell us something that we don't already know

 

Some times it’s easier to stick to the false fantasy conspiracy and deny the FACTS than admit to being wrong repeatedly

 

You still need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. You also need to learn the difference between rumor and opinion, but my all means, keep thoughtlessly lapping up whatever the Steelers put out there.

 

I didn't forget about the fourth at all, it was still good value for Pickett.

 

Players would drop hints to the media the last few years about certain players, they wouldn't name Pickens but the media knew who they were talking about.