general draft talk 2013-14 addition

my trouble is his blocking is not very good. we have a few of those.

amaro looks very good and is known to be a better blocker.

everyone wants a gronk. we don't have tom to start with and we covet that do it all type TE like heath. heath was finally getting back to form. spaeth helped in his short time playing. he should be back healthy too. I just don't see a 1st round pick at that position.

I could live with fiedorowicz, Jensen, grimble, bolser and the two former vets. all 4 of those guys are still quality players in our setting. that would be a lot of money tied up at that position. we also don't have the O-tackles that can be left on their own and need the blocking parts of our TE's game. Johnson wasn't playing bad either before the injury.

 

I really like Seferian-Jenkins as well, and think he is more of a 2nd round prospect than a first. That to me is even better. I want CB, ILB, or WR in the first.

I think we need to draft the following (in no order):

CB
ILB
OLB
WR
TE
S
Depth

 

van noy ......OLB/ILB....... playmaker one guy can play two spots. can play the rightside. can play inside.
roby............ CB good size and fast.
moncrief...... big WR with some sub 4.50 speed and some girth.
johnson...... OT can play the money spot or anywhere else on the line. beachum like.

mosely would be hard to pass in the first also. he is a guy, like van noy. they can play any LB spot.

 

Do we go defense in the first round? Or give Ben more weapons?

If we go defense he needs to be a "special" player. LIke Troy. Someone that can start day one and be able to grasp Lebeau's system in training camp. But even troy didn't start his rookie season.

We go with that big WR or TE and give Ben more toys to play with. He will or should be able to catch on to the offense quicker than a defensive player to the defense.

So, if we go defense we need to have a plan that we don't need him to start his rookie year. Most of the starters you seen this year will be starters next year on defense. Minus Clark and Kiesel.

 

kareem martin de
jabari price cb
aj blue rb ( blue bell backfield as sweet as ice cream)

 

In our setting. That is the key. I don't think we would ever utilize a pure receiving TE,we like our guys a little more versatile. So to me Ebron or Amaro or the likes wouldn't fit our style. The O really seemed to take off once Bell got on track and I think and hope he will continue to be the focal point with everything else working off what he can do. That being the case a guy like C.J. Fiedorowicz could be that guy or someone similar flying under the radar. I don't see a TE being a priority just yet. If we do end up with a 3rd for Wallace I could see us using that pick for a TE. If you're going to go with a receiving TE,we might as well go after one of the big bodied WRs instead. I think that's a greater need and would provide more of a impact. We need someone to protect AB.

Also my opinion is that we need both secondary and LB help. We are gonna have to wait and see how our OLB situation plays out. Also the future health of Spence and how they really feel about our other young ILB prospects may steer our draft direction. We can definitely use better depth at both LB positions. CJ Mosley may be too hard to pass up on if he is there at 15.

 

how about tre boston? bryn renner?

 

I put mosley and van noy very close. shazier is a little behind them but still talented. I think he would take longer to learn the defense than the first two. these are players that 1. we need for the position 2. they can play at any of the LB spots. 3. and maybe most important, they can play the right side that requires a little different skill set. these guys are not just role players, they are playmakers.

if they pick one, I think there is a good possibility that JJ could play in the middle or left side at a higher level. though I will say vince Williams was getting better every game. garvin too, could make some noise.

I think the worst thing they could do is bring foote back to start. if butler goes , I'd make him a coach.

we will have to wait and see what the higher ups decide to do with our current group of players. I don't think they were at a championship level even by the end of the year, but some parts are in place I'd like to think.

it's the O's turn to pick, but if there is a year to change that, and two of those 3 LB'ers are there, I'd have no problem with them going 1-2 with those guys. could you imagine JJ,timmons,mosely,van noy? Williams,garvin,spence,carter as the backups? I'd be all in.

 

I would like for them to find a TE later in the draft not in the first round. In the first round I would like the best LT, big WR, or CB.

 

I am Liking it

 

dennard may very well be gone when we pick.

skov has been surrounded with a lot of talent, but I've never seen him be a big play game changer or a guy that takes over. he's more of a role player to me.

murphy, I'm unsure about. he has some good moments but how will he do against NFL players?

I wish bullough would have played. he's as solid as they come, and as smart as they come. well except when he did what he did. whatever it was.

I also want to see both safeties for mich.st..

 

I just saw how we struggled without a good blocking TE when heath was out. Paulson is more of a receiving TE and so was palmer. the O clicked better when heath was back and playing healthier then the first few weeks he came back. it took another step forward when spaeth came back. let's face it we are going to use bell and that requires a blocking TE and usually 2 in Haley's offense. whomever has the best combo game would be my guy.

saf-Jenkins is used a lot in the run game blocking for sankey. they use him like another tackle at times. he also is pretty smooth for a guy his size in pass routes. he's to much of a body catcher though.

grimble is also a very good one if he comes out. I just think it's a pretty deep group this draft.

 

Thanks for putting their position/school (for those of us who don't know everyone).

 

I think the "don't use a pick on an athletic pass-catching TE because we wouldn't use him" argument is a myth. Are some of you saying that if Jimmy Graham, Vernon Davis, Gronk, etc where on this team that they wouldn't get utilized properly? I don't buy it. When we have had capable TE's we have always used them in the passing game (except maybe during the BA tenure). The problem has always been that we draft small OT's instead of large WR's to play TE! Other than Eric Green and Heath Miller, who else have we had at the position that could move, find holes in zones, and catch the ball consistently? I can't think of anyone. If we draft Amaro or Ebron, we will use them. It's just a matter of who else is on the board at the time that can provide more impact.

 

I didn't pay that close attention, but Aaron Colvin, CB #14 Oklahoma looked like he's got wheels. Had a great angle but showed what looked like amazing catch up speed on a long catch & run (I think 2nd quarter maybe). Projected as a possible 3rd round CB. I didn't pay close enough attention the rest of the game though as I was tired.