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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by bettissb40, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. bettissb40

    bettissb40 Well-Known Member

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    I hope in this bye week we had, the coaches really looked at what Philly is doing to beat teams like the Ravens and Giants. If they can do it with the Ravens then we should be able to also. Hell even tho the Browns lost to the Ravens the score was half decent for the Browns. And if we lose to the Browns then we need to restructure and get our ducks in a row from Tomlin all the way down. How can you go from a number one defense for so long to what we have now.
     
  2. Busman

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    One glaring difference. Flacco is not Ben



    Bman
     
  3. freakfontana

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    philly put pressure we don't
     
  4. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Philly should have lost week one at Cleveland, and at home against Baltimore, they did lose on the road against Arizona, and they beat the Gaints at home. Let's just say I think if we play like we should we can beat them and I'm glad we are playing at home.
     
  5. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Yep. Last season, the field was wide open in terms of dominant teams. This season, it isn't that different. Sure, the pundits are still bigging up some teams more than others, as they always do, but actually I don't see a single team in the NFL that's head and shoulders above the others. (Though maybe a few feet and knees below...). Philly are no different. We know that we play to the opposition, so let's hope this means stepping it up this week.
     
  6. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Granted, I can't watch all of the games. But from what I've seen, Houston and Atlanta are clearly playing the best football... right now.

    That does not mean they're the 2 best teams, nor does it mean that that is the likely match up for the Superbowl. We have a loooong season still ahead of us. All it takes is 1 or 2 injuries, and a team can go from world beaters to also-rans. Forget injuries. Some teams gel and peak later in the year (those teams tend to make the most waves in the playoffs too). Even without injuries, some teams fizzle out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, after all, my memory isn't what it once was. But I swear I remember Miami starting out 9-2 in the early 90s, only to fail to even make the playoffs.

    Recent years have also shown the opposite can happen. The 2005 Steelers didn't get truly hot until December. The 2010 Packers didn't look like anything special in September or early October. Giants last year?

    It's still any team's trophy. Even our Steelers. Granted, we have long way to go, and need a lot of improvement. But we're not down and out by any means.
     
  7. shaner82

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    Flacco is playing very well this year, don't kid yourself. Besides, if it only came down to which QB is better we would have beaten Oakland.
     
  8. Busman

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    True but if you look at the shear numbers Ben is the better all around QB ... Not to mention the intangibles. I am waiting for Flaccos game to decline as it always does..
     
  9. lovembig

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    Flacco has Ray Rice. he is a great security blanket for him and he moves the chains. the key to beating the Ravens is to contain Rice.
     
  10. dominilate

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    Hate to tell you this but Flacco is a more accurate pocket passer and his game has picked up a notch or two starting from last year. Ray Rice is a great weapon and I hope we utilize Mendy in the same fashion (something I didn't get with BA's offense). Remember though The Ravens beat us in OUR house last year on a drive that started from their 10 yard line with NO timeouts AND they needed and got a TD to do it. I don't remember for sure but I dont think Rice touched the ball that last series, IT WAS ALL FLACCO AND THE STEELERS INABILITY TO GET PRESSURE. Which is how you beat Flacco, Brady, Manning, you rattle them in the pocket (Something we're struggling with).
    With Philly watch how their RB's Cutback into the hole. I watched a few teams kill us with their blocking schemes (Houston comes to mind) and this is where we will see what this Defense is made of. Coming off a bye THERE ARE NO EXCUSES!
     
  11. Busman

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    Hate to tell you this but Flacco is a more accurate pocket passer and his game has picked up a notch or two starting from last year. Ray Rice is a great weapon and I hope we utilize Mendy in the same fashion (something I didn't get with BA's offense). Remember though The Ravens beat us in OUR house last year on a drive that started from their 10 yard line with NO timeouts AND they needed and got a TD to do it. I don't remember for sure but I dont think Rice touched the ball that last series, IT WAS ALL FLACCO AND THE STEELERS INABILITY TO GET PRESSURE. Which is how you beat Flacco, Brady, Manning, you rattle them in the pocket (Something we're struggling with).
    With Philly watch how their RB's Cutback into the hole. I watched a few teams kill us with their blocking schemes (Houston comes to mind) and this is where we will see what this Defense is made of. Coming off a bye THERE ARE NO EXCUSES![/quote:y7q7u46n]

    You hit Flacco like Sanchez was rattled and you get to his head you can change the momentum and Flacos game. He is not near hte level Ben is. 1 TD against Philly and 1 against Cleveland and 3 against NE. He isnt exactly tearing it up
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    Flacco is a lot better then he is getting credit for, I know everyone hates him here but his game has definitely improved. He'd probably have a SB under his belt too if not for a dropped pass and missed fg. They matched up much better against the Giants then NE did, not so sure the Giants win that game if they had faced Baltimore instead.
     
  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i agree, flacco picked it up last year when they started letting him go downfield more. he's been successful doing it. it helps ray rice a guy that didn't really need the help.

    as far as a dropped pass and missed field goal though, every team could say that at some point. NE had the worst pass defense in the league last year, it shouldn't have come down to that. we don't have the line or defense they do right now and they are down a couple of top players too on that defense. they set out to draft and be more like us and they have and went beyond at this point. we are trying to force life long backups to be starters. that will not move, or keep your team ahead. we are in trouble right now. they are closer to what We want to be then we are. :cool:
     
  14. Blast Furnace

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    i agree, flacco picked it up last year when they started letting him go downfield more. he's been successful doing it. it helps ray rice a guy that didn't really need the help.

    as far as a dropped pass and missed field goal though, every team could say that at some point. NE had the worst pass defense in the league last year, it shouldn't have come down to that. we don't have the line or defense they do right now and they are down a couple of top players too on that defense. they set out to draft and be more like us and they have and went beyond at this point. we are trying to force life long backups to be starters. that will not move, or keep your team ahead. we are in trouble right now. they are closer to what We want to be then we are. :cool:[/quote:28wnawvm]

    I don't know how many could say that it kept them from going to a SB, it wasn't like it was one or the other, both misplays happened, NE got real lucky. I think Baltimore was a better team last year though, obviously losing Suggs is a big hit but teams are also passing all over them too. It seems us and them have both taken a step back defensively while improving offensively.
     
  15. mac daddyo

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    i agree, flacco picked it up last year when they started letting him go downfield more. he's been successful doing it. it helps ray rice a guy that didn't really need the help.

    as far as a dropped pass and missed field goal though, every team could say that at some point. NE had the worst pass defense in the league last year, it shouldn't have come down to that. we don't have the line or defense they do right now and they are down a couple of top players too on that defense. they set out to draft and be more like us and they have and went beyond at this point. we are trying to force life long backups to be starters. that will not move, or keep your team ahead. we are in trouble right now. they are closer to what We want to be then we are. :cool:[/quote:22bi8eya]

    I don't know how many could say that it kept them from going to a SB, it wasn't like it was one or the other, both misplays happened, NE got real lucky. I think Baltimore was a better team last year though, obviously losing Suggs is a big hit but teams are also passing all over them too. It seems us and them have both taken a step back defensively while improving offensively.[/quote:22bi8eya]


    they're winning those close one's and we're losing them. very troublesome for us. they had quite the injury bug at LB this offseason too. :cool:
     
  16. Busman

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    Ok guys knock off the love fest for the turds. They are still the turds and I cant stand this love fest. Flacco sucks and he looks like Bert from the sesame street with his unibrow and Ray Ray is a thug as well as the other jail birds on that team

    Lets get back to talking smack about the hated rivalry shall we? lol

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  17. Blast Furnace

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    :lolol: sorry Bus. If you look past the compliments though, you'll see I actually tore them down a little bit :hehehe:
     
  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i know bus and it kills me to see this crap happening. i just haven't seen the will, or desire for this staff to change whats happening here or the front office to stregnthen our glaring needs. if we are going to talk mclendon, draft MOO, bring in a brandon johnson, keep a robert golden, robinson and cam heyward, then why are they not on the field? it pains me to say anything good about , well you know, that team. until we show some change though we are spinning our wheels in the mud. we might as well dress some traffic cones and put on the field. speed kills on defense, ours shouldn't be sitting on the bench. :cool:
     
  19. Busman

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    Yup I caught it . I knew you were slinging it at the same time. Good for you man :

    GO STEELERS

    Bman
     
  20. Busman

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    Yeah I would not necessarily disagree with you Mac. I am just like everyone else. Sometimes really insecure when it comes to the Steelers.. For years now at least 2 that I can remember each game comes down to the wire cause we dont put teams away when we have the chance. They do need to make changes that is for certain and I worry the guys sitting on the bench should be ready to play and fill in for these aging vets. I mean really what the hell did we draft them for and if they are not ready to replace the vets then why not? We have Heyward first rounder that is not showing us anything. Carter is not really performing at a starter level and Woirlds is injured all the time. I could go on and on about the inefficiencies that have plagued this unit.

    I guess as a Steeler fan our expectations are higher then most teams and we just expect to field good product and have them on the field year after year. I dont think of this team as each individual member but more of the entire organization from top to bottom could be at fault. Right from the front office drafting to the coaches and players for the execution.

    Each week I am hopeful we win but get frustrated at the level of play and lack of adjustments .. Yikes its friggin scary. I use to drink beer during games but quit.. Now I am thinking I need to be loaded to endure this kind of play LOL

    Bman
     
  21. mac daddyo

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    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/10/ke ... e-defense/

    this is disturbing to me. worilds still not ready? they have to get over this thing about he's not ready. for all the young guys. they are going to make mistakes, but they are going to make plays too. as i said before butler,DLB and tomlin are really hard headed when it comes to this. we have to make a decision about worilds by the end of the year, do we keep him or find another guy thats not ready yet? this is where we are lacking about bringing in veteran free agents to play with our vets and cut the learning curve in half. we have guys that may not be starting material but we have to play them because a new guy isn't ready. :bscow:

    :cool:
     
  22. Busman

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  23. Rush2seven

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    :goodpost:
     
  24. Bleedsteel

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    Hate the bass turds.... But what does worry me is their switch to the no-huddle/muddle huddle...
    We seem to struggle against up-tempo offenses like that.
    I am nowhere near ready to write off two losses against them, but realistically, I do have to wonder if that change in their offense, might be the tipping point, in what have USUALLY(I`ve blacked out the season opener last year from my memory),
    been very tightly contested, close slug-fests...
    Well, That, and the rules trying to eliminate good old-fashioned slugfests, but that hurts them as much as us, if enforced equally.
    Go Steelers!!! :ratbirds: :goodell: :ratssuck: :club: :threaten:
     

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