For the Big Ben haters

Ah, now I know how my simple point has turned into this long rehashing of old news. You just can't seem to accept that women lie about being raped, it's not being a homer, it's reality. You don't like my opinion, tough s**t, I think she lied.[/quote:2ypf0h94]

Except that a few lines above I said "yes, some girls have lied" about being raped. Otherwise your point about me not being able to except that premise would have been spot on. Selective reading is maybe at fault here.

Your opinion is clear, I just think it's unfair that this woman is held accountable for what some other women have done and not given the benefit of doubt with the countless woman who have not lied. It's not so much your opinion I have tried to figure out in these discussions, it's the basis of why his story carries more weight than hers? It just always wreaks of boys club BS and sticking together, coupled with the idea she is loose with her ways. And of course we all know that slut automatically means liar and it's impossible that a slut could be taken advantage of. She must have been asking for it...![/quote:2ypf0h94]

It's pretty naive to think only "some" girls have lied about being raped. By saying "some" you are basically saying I don't believe it but don't want to come across as a fool by saying so. It's pretty clear from reading your posts that you think all girls are angles and you'll cut them slack no matter what, despite your double talk. Ben's never been charged with anything, the guy must be a master criminal.

@ TTF, sorry, I let myself get drawn back into this from an insult by OS, I should have left it alone. Lock it, move it, burn it if you want [/quote:2ypf0h94]

Insult? When did I insult you? I thought we kept it civil yet spirited as you said earlier. I didn't mean to.

you are wrong by projecting and distorting what you think I mean as opposed to what I said I mean. I know for a fact some females have lied. It would be ridiculous to say otherwise. But I do think they are in a far minority to those who haven't lied. Or those who haven't come forth out fear of a fruitless outcome and reprisals. I couldn't even begin to put an accurate numerical percentage in the lier vs actual victim categories.

You don't want to take me at my word? Fine...don't. But I don't know how you feel that's fair. Now you're calling me a liar without anything to back it up. That's weird.[/quote:2ypf0h94]

Over reaction on my part, was at a bbq all day, might have had a couple beers while I was there :innocent: Anyway, hadn't we finished discussing this already