FIRE T.HALEY NOW!!!!!

Yea I could just see the posts on this board if Bruce was calling a game where he had Ben in the no huddle, slinging the ball all over the field for almost an entire second half. People's heads would have been exploding LOL !

 

After dealing with BA's terrible play calling for several seasons....yep your right we would have.

 

If you truly watched this game and can't see any difference in play calling, they you are not that observant. Night and day difference. Now the execution was no better, but you definitely didn't see Wallace running long every snap, nor did you see 4-6 WR bubble screens (the one WR screen I saw actually looked well disguised as opposed to the BA bubble screen).

I'm as unhappy about an opening day loss as anyone, but you're playing the game with another patchwork OL, 2nd-4th string RB's and a hold out WR.... all against one of the better NFL defenses in the league.

You play that same game with 35+ minutes of possession against any of our next 15 opponents and I can almost guarantee a win. Let's not forget, Peyton will be a 1st ballot HOFer.

 

On a related note, Dumervill was not a factor last night. I thought Max did a decent job stopping him with some help from Heath. Pass pro was pretty decent last night. The big Legursky got exposed. He is a backup C for a reason and not a good G.

 

Hey, QUIET!!

As Moe from The Three Stooges would say, "who's in charge here?"

There is irony here that BA would have been tared and feathered, run out of town, flogged, and hanged if he had bungled the play calling at the 3 last night, or on the other drive to nowhere.

Hah! All of yuinz that was crying for the head of Bruce last year are now somehow silent at the ineptitude of Haley. Really, we hold the ball for a century and manage a FG. Have it on the 3 after we had run more than Seattle Slew in the first quarter and we pull up lame on the goal line with first and goal from the 3? The only worse effort would have been Ben trying to sneak it in. Oye, and double Oye.

It I were Tomlin, I would have called a TO and rang the neck of Haley on down number 2 and told him he is no longer a ball boy. That was a true Steeler WTF moment. You know, STEELER FOOTBALL? Is that not the mantra we walk and talk by? Horse pucky. Haley proved his ball boy stature by attempting to out fox the Fox. Nada. You have to give it 2 shots at a minimum. Let's see, could we maybe of pitched the ball out to the Rain man? He is pretty quick.

No, no, instead we try 3 pass plays that involve skinny little receivers. Yep, the lone exception was Heath. Nice play, wide open and Jethro does his impersonation of Ellie Mae. It was a royal cluster and I don't mean peanut cluster.

rutan

 

:lol:

 

Seriously everyone....RELAX. If this is a PATTERN after a few games, I will start blasting the OC, but for now, it was growing pains. Did you expect this offense to fire on all cylinders right away? We were about 3 plays from winning that game. Here are the 3 I see:

1. Under throw to Heath in endzone.
2. Long TD given up by D.
3. INT by Ben for TD.

 

Everyone here on this board knows the Steelers are going to run more this year . BA was fired because of his ineptness along with him not taking the running game seriously. Just ask the Rooneys . .

What people dont get is you have to have a good oline especially on the goal line to run the ball. We don't have that. Do you think maybe haley realised there is no GD way with this line and a banged up Redman the ball is crossing the goal line?

The only effective running in the entire game was done by Dwyer and he was only able to get some positive yardage because of his ability to bounce it outside. There NO HOLES. EVER

Bman

 

Let me see if I understand this correctly. Haley realized our offensive line sucked so he was wise to pass, but Arians passed because he was inept. Not because the oline sucked. Lol



Of course acknowledging the flaw in your argument makes me an Arians apologist.

 

Sigh. I thought this thread would be filled with light-hearted banter and gentle self-mocking.

 

I don't totally agree with this statement. I think BA was fired for multiple reasons:

1. His willingness to abandon the run. That is not to say that he didn't run the ball, sometimes he did it to his own detriment. Like 3 straight times from the 2 yard line, when PA on one of those would have made sense. He wasn't opposed to running the ball, but he did it mostly in order to throw the ball DEEP as the big quick score was more important than 5-6 yards and a first down.

2. His inability to get this team into the endzone. While there were SOME symptoms of this in the game on Sunday, I don't think it was as bad as everyone made it out to be. We had 4 trips in the redzone. 2 of those 4 we got TDs. Had a pass been a little higher and over the outstretched arms of a DB, we would have been 3 for 4. The 4th one we only got into the redzone on 2nd down, leaving 3rd and 3. Incomplete pass and we settled for a FG. So we should have been basically 3 for 3 with one additional 3rd down play in the redzone. I can't complain about that.

3. His unwillingness to take what the D gave him. You are talking about a guy who on 2nd and 2 would take 2 shots of over 20 yards down the field when Heath or the RB could be wide open and get the first down. He did not understand how to move down the field in chunks rather than getting the home run. Home runs are great, but you don't need to take a shot at one on every possession when the D is giving you the a little sit down pass to the tight end every play at about an 8 yard chunk. The end result, is the difference in Sunday's game 3rd quarter and last year's Denver game 3rd quarter. Last year the roles were reversed in the 3rd quarter. The Broncs had the ball MOST of the quarter while we went pass, pass, pass, 3 and out for a total time of possession of 15 seconds. This year they had the ball for 21 seconds and scored. The reality though is that MOST games, I would rather be that team which has the ball 14:30 rather than the team which has it for 30. BA wasn't, and it contributed to his firing.

 

Oh you mean like in the Super Bowl against gb when we're backed up against our own end zone and Ben is doing pump fakes and forcing the ball dOwnfield to Wallace while ignoring Heath 10 yards deep. That all22 package from nfl.com is pretty cool some of you should look into it.

 

BK99, this is a weak thread. Why waste yor time talking this nonsense abou BA vs Haley. If you are watching the games then you can see the difference in Haley's offense and BA's. First off, Ben is not throwing the deep ball and forcing the ball down field. They are also a least trying to run the ball which I feel willl be successful eventually. You can also see the short passing game and the use of Heath Miller. I can see and understand what Haley is trying to do. I had no clue as to what BA was doing as much as Steeler Nation didn't. One game and you want to fire Haley? Well that is not how the majority feels.

You do not have a leg to stand on and not much support!

 

No I think it would be been smarter of haley to run it in without any holes. .Do that a few times and then kick a field goal LOL

At least with the quick passes which Haley obviously has implemented there is a chance of scoring

Bman

 

Thanks Edog

Bman

 

You might want to add Kugler to that firing list, because all of Haley's, and Bens problems can be attributed to Kuglers Oline...

 

People will continue to blame the OC's for deficiencies in Ben's game.

 

Dude Bruce has been bad for years. Todd has 1 damn game and you want him fired. Ben threw an interception let's fire him. Troy didn't have an interception?? Fire him!11!!1shift!12

 

i don't know maybe it's me but i saw a good offense yesterday , with the oline performance we had (mediocre at best ) , we moved the ball pretty well against a very good defense ,

 

Yep, I tihnk some people are perhaps forgetting that the Denver D is no pushover.

 

The only reason that game wasn't a total blowout was because of Ben's actions on 3rd down. We were truly pathetic on 1st down and marginally better on 2nd down. The end result putting us in 3rd and a mile repeatedly. A 1.5 ypa average on 1st down and a little over 2 running the ball. 6-8 on passes out of the backfield for a mind numbing 20 something yards and the majority of that came on one pass to W.Johnson.

I'm not saying Haley needs to be fired, but saying our offense looked good is asinine.