Fire Keith Butler

3 of those wins would have been definite L's... had the starting QB played.

This is the same team that got torched by Blake Bortles. I do believe Rodgers, Luck and Watson are slightly better QBs than Bortles. Slightly.

 

13-3 includes an offense also.They had a schedule that was fairly easy compared to this year.They just got by a few backups that the defense made look like Rogers or Brady.We also had a clutch kicker in Boswell!If our defense plays like it did after Shazier went down they’re toast!

 

More FF and INT's help alot too.

 

No doubt, but Bortles didn’t beat us. Their running game and defense did. Bortles didn’t torch us, he executed when he needed to - stats wise he was pedestrian.

Luck is 0-1 against us. As is Rodgers in the regular season, though that was too long ago to be meaningful.

We may well have lost those games in different circumstances, but saying they would have been definite Ls needs a bit more evidence, for me.

 

Ok, I’ll play the alternate universe game. Since there we can loose games we won, so we can win games we lost that we should have won. There are 3 of them. Let me check my gazintas, we loose 3 more games, but we win 3 more games. Hmmm, that makes us:

13-3

Best in the NFL

 

Get used to 9-7 or worse for 2018.

 

mmmkay!

 

so does the side make the player or does the player make the side? Typically teams use their best pass rusher on the right because it's the QBs blind side. I think the switch for Dupree is based on a few different reasons....One I believe is because of the blindside factor and the way Dupree typically runs the arc. Coming from the left side the QB can easily see him coming and step up and sometimes slide out of the pocket putting extra pressure on the coverage units....Two I think is because of the propensity for the Steelers to drop the ROLB in coverage more often. Thus actually putting our best rush OLB in this case on the left side.
Three may be a effort in getting the sturdier player on the typical power run side....
Their thoughts and efforts may be a combination and a last ditch effort to get something out of him....

 

pardon

 

If they are, I’ll get used to the facts.

Right now, until we play a game this season, we are 13-3. That’s also a fact.

 

I wouldn't say the Steelers were torched by Bortles. Bortles play well enough to limit mistakes, didn't turn the ball over, and made plays when his team needed with his legs and arms.

You don't know how Rodgers, Luck, or Watson would had played vs the Steelers. Just because those QB's are better doesn't mean they would had performed as well as Bortles and the Jags as a team. As we all know football is a team game.

QB's like Bortles that are not as good as Rodgers or other QB's don't need to have the great careers those players have. All QB's like Bortles need to do is have good enough games and limit mistakes within the structure of their teams to have a chance at winning games.

 

He clearly just stated because we played 3 backups that had they had their starters we would have lost.

 

Everyone was trashed by the eagles had they had Wentz the playoffs would have been a complete wash they were just by far last yr the best team. But the vikes problem was they couldnt get an production out of the offense and had a bad game. Still the way their defense produced vs philly was far better than what our defense looked like vs jax and they were ON THE ROAD and vs a guy who was at least in his career and pro bowl QB and has an excellent td/int ratio. We got embarrassed by BLAKE BORTLES. I dont think that is sticking in your craw. And it wasnt just him it was SEVERAL GAMES our defense looked bad. Not just 1. Had they just had a bad game against jax and that wasn't like jax or minny I'd say ok. But they had MULTIPLE ALL YEAR LONG. Same with jax. You cant continue like their offense did put brady on the field over and over and over back to back while not getting any production out the offense and getting production out the defense. They also had a bad scheme . They played not to lose and played all zone prevent at the end of the game. They didnt keep their foot in the gas like philly. Pederson just criticized their coach for that they just got scared and complacent and brady picked them apart in that zone you have to play man and mix in some different zones ve ne not that straight prevent they were playing thinking oh we have this in the bag.

 

You don't know how the Eagles would had performed with Wentz. Maybe Wentz wouldn't play well? We don't know. By far the best team? A play here or there by the Falcons or Pats and who knows if the Eagles would had won the Super Bowl.

Football is a team game. Our defense didn't play well vs the Jags offense. Turnovers by our offense didn't help the defense. Teams that give the ball away 2 times are not going to win a game a large percentage of the time. Again, football is a team sport.

Show me defenses that didn't have multiple bad games in an offensive driven league. I won't be holding my breath.

Overall the defensive stats were what they were. IMO the defense wasn't as bad as you believe. That stats show and prove the Steelers were a top 10 defense in many categories.

 

i think if his head was up his face mask would have absorbed some of that hit

 

That’s nice. Is there a point to this, or are you just confused?

Have you started fall semester?

 

When they needed it, he got it. It's a team game and he was good enough to beat us.

 

With Shazier, we could not stop Jax’s run game in the 1st meeting.

 

Agree completely. But that’s still different to “torching” us.

 

Maybe, maybe not. All that talk is speculation and pessimistic b.s.
We were 13-3 last season. You can spin it anyway you want, but it’s always going to be in the record books as 13-3. Always. You guys complain when we lose games were supposed to win and then you complain when we win games were supposed to win.
What’s the common denominator here? Complaining!

 

The bottom line is we didn't win the super bowl and that sucks but we made some changes and we will try again this year and see where it takes us.

 

A very fortunate 13-3 as many of those games were rabbits out of a hat type wins. Still 13-3 is quite an accomplishment and shows how competitive this team ultimately is.

Then Blake Bortles/Jax hung 45 on us in Heinz in January.

That’s my complaint. This defense is absolute trash and we did nothing but draft a hybrid tweener rookie to fix it.

 

Got rid of a liability at S.

Signed a starting S.

Signed an ILB starting for another team.

I’m not saying that was enough, but they did a bit more than one draft pick.

 

Two good coaches as well. Even munch took a couple of years to bring this group around. Give Dunbar and Bradley some time, it's not going to happen in a couple of weeks. We still have butler, porter and Jerry o to overcome.

 

First thing I want to address. You said "you guys" yet in another topic you criticized me in response to you throwing out you guys. Secondly I never said we lose games were supposed to lose except for vs jax. Reg season losses to lester teams happen even to sb champs. The eagles with wentz lost to Seattle that didnt even make the playoffs. Brady in a game got outplayed by Jay Cutler.. it happens. My thing is the defense constantly underperformed vs almost everyone and had we did play Rodgers and Watson I dont think we would have won. If we barely beat GB with a backup what the hell do you think would have happened against the best player in the NFL? And also what further validates that argument is the biggest game of the yr we wet the bed. If we just lost to ne again in the conference championship maybe you'd say ok to the record but when you lost like we lost to jax it's a no.