Fichtner Pegged as New OC

Your point is well taken. He was 7-9 his last year and second in the division behind the Colts. Not exactly a banner year. Bottom line, I just don’t think he had the horses and I don’t think the Titans organization can compare with the Steelers as far as a commitment to long term success. I know it got political at the end of his tenure between the CEO,GM and Munchak, regarding firing his assistants. I’m not privy to the details.

 

his resume speaks for itself.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...990ace793dd9&usg=AOvVaw0jIyxfXSolrqhghftrHwGX

his teams do well in categories we need improved. GB was in trouble player wise and capers was the head that rolled. well along with darren perry the DB coach. under capers his teams created turnovers and nearly always ranked in the top ten in the league. i think he would do well here with some good assistants. they sure loved him when they were winning.

 

Ben can have whomever he wants as OC, especially if he has 3 years left. The Defense is the damn problem and no one, starting with our DB specialist Tomlin, should be free of blame.

 

I did read the article. Nothing against Fichtner, but honestly it sounds to me like it could be another BA type of relationship where Ben gets everything he wants. That didn't work out too well either. Haley's an obnoxious jerk but he knows how to get the most out of a player. Even players that don't like him will tell you that. Our offense has been unstoppable the last half of this season, we scored 42 points against the Jags, we have the best WR in football, the best RB in football and one of the best QBs in football. Some of that is a result of the Todd Haley coached offense. And we're going to fire him? No mention of firing Keith Butler at this point even though not one guy on the defensive side of the ball made a play against a mediocre Jags offense on Sunday. It just doesn't make sense. You haven't seen a rant like the one you'll see if we fire Haley and don't make any changes on the defensive side of the coaching staff. Porter and Lake at a minimum need to be sent packing and Butler needs to be on probation!

 

Play calling was horrible when it matter most. Never really like Haley. I would be fine if he left.

 

Sorry, Blast, didn't see the question until now. We are effective in the no huddle but you can't run it all the time. I think we've got to give Haley his due, as I responded to strummer above our offense has been unstoppable of late. Our offense is NOT the problem. We've got the best WR, RB and one of the best QBs. We've got the top rookie WR on the team. Our TEs have had solid seasons. While our OL's performance has been primarily due to positional coaching with Munch, Haley is still the Offensive Coordinator who has to cook the meal with all of the individual ingredients. As I mentioned before, even players that dislike Haley personally will tell you that he knows how to get the best out of you. Sometimes you may have to hurt someone's feelings. Big deal! Everybody on that team should be wearing big boy pants, including Ben. In the Texans game, I saw Haley crawl Justin Hunter's hide late in the game when the Steelers were well in control because he didn't break off his out rate at a steep enough angle. THAT is coaching! We need that. The offense is fine, it's the defensive coaching staff that needs shaken up. Butler can't get it done and our DB guru head coach, who was a defensive coordinator before coming to the Steelers, can't seem to get it done either.

 

Just to be clear, Haley's offensive schemes and plays are okay and better then average, except for some of his screens. It's the play calling during certain game situations that drives people crazy and at times just plan stupid.

With Butler it's both, the schemes and also the defensive plays that have your best pass rushers in pass coverage so much !!!!

 

So Haley has has some of the best players in football, but he gets a pass for his asinine calls. Butler on the other hand needs to go despite having less to work with?

 

Haley does have some great players and they would be great players no matter who the OC is, I'll give you that. But there are great players all around the league who haven't had the kind of success that these guys have had. I believe Haley puts them in the best position possible to be great. That's what good coaches do. He deserves some of the credit for that.

As for Butler, I'm not saying he needs to be fired. At a minimum, though, Porter and Lake need to go and Butler needs to be on a short lease. How many first and second rounders do we have on the defensive side of the ball? We should have the talent to compete defensively. No defensive player stepped up on Sunday to make an impactful play. They got beat play after play after play. It was a pathetic performance and that goes back to coaching. Artie Burns, first rounder. Sean Davis, second rounder. Joe Haden, first rounder. Bud Dupree, first rounder. TJ Watt, first rounder. Cam Heyward, first rounder. Stephon Tuitt, second rounder. Hargrave and Spence were third rounders. We should have the talent to compete on that side of the ball.

 

It seems simple to me. If Bouchette's reporting is to be believed, Haley is one reason Roethlisberger wasn't sure he wanted to continue. He wants Haley gone. He asked for the quarterback coach to be on the sideline specifically to act as a buffer between them. That's bad. It seems like one of them has to go, and the choice is easy. It has to be Haley.

If you based thing solely on performance, I would keep Haley, but the personalities matter, too.

That said, Butler needs to go. So do Porter and Lake. It should have happened already.

 

Even going no-huddle. Ben is communication via Helmet with plays sent into him-until the game clock reaches 15 seconds.

 

I never saw Fichtner call a game, he could sabotage this offense for all we know?

I don't see anything wrong with this offense.

On those 4th and 1's, which were the only issues I had, Tomlin had every opportunity to override him. That is on Tomlin.

I don't know how accurate Bouchette's article is? We never have gotten confirmation that they don't get a long. The media was playing up this potential rivalry the minute Haley was hired, probably before they even met face to face.

 

Well I will agree our oline has gotten much better with Munch and yeah that plays into the hits but also Haley has to play into it as well. Weather we abandoned the dink and dunk after a few years or not Ben is still getting the ball out quicker and that is on the OC.

As for the whole buddy buddy thing I guess I am going by what everyone has been saying and the fact that the media has pretty much made sure we all know Ben and Todd don't like each other. I am just hopeful if Randy gets the job Ben don't walk on him and becomes the OC instead of him. I feel we have to save Ben from himself sometimes.

Now to your question, I don't know how to answer this as I am not sure what plays Todd calls and what plays Ben changes to. What I will say is both call plays out of Haley game plan no? So if your looking for an answer I guess for me it would be Haley but I do like when Ben runs the no huddle.

Either way Tomlin didn't stop this and now there has to be a change cause it is a distraction for sure. Like you said before and I agreed with if it is a choice between Ben and Todd.....bye bye Todd. jmo

 

Aditi Kinkhabwala‏Verified account@AKinkhabwala 27m27 minutes ago




Ben Roethlisberger says he and Todd Haley sat together yesterday in OC's office and laughed. Says, "There’s always issues in a competitive field" and "you might butt heads at times, it doesn’t mean you have any personal problems."

8:12 AM - 16 Jan 2018

 

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account@RapSheet 53m53 minutes ago




More on #AZCardinals and Mike Munchak, a top candidate: #Titans wanted to keep him after 2013 assuming he'd make staff changes. He refused & was fired. But he held that place together ... Would he bring OC Todd Haley along with him? Haley is a free agent now.

7:51 AM - 16 Jan 2018

 

Haley going back to AZ would make some sense. Everybody's seen what Lev Bell can do, maybe they want to duplicate that with David Johnson

 

Do not like the idea of losing Munch.........

 

I guess my questions is WHEN will this (Haley officially not coming back) happen? If they don't decide soon, all the good OC candidates will be gone.

 

Bouchette has covered the Steelers for nearly 30 years. He has great sources, which he wouldn't be able to keep if he lacked integrity. If it was anybody else, I might question the story. This is a guy who has covered Roethlisberger's entire career. Just because the quarterback is backtracking today doesn't mean it isn't real.

 

Or with LeVeon Bell.

 

The difference is more than just who’s calling the plays. No-huddle is tougher on the defense and obstructs substitutions. And the OC could still radio plays to Ben, even in no-huddle.

Plus, they can’t run effectively no-huddle in the eight road games. The OC’s skills count.

 

Yeah, no. He was part of that "call from the sidelines" pitch play to Bell. Screw that they need a new thinking process.