Excluding Belichick and Reid, which CURRENT NFL head coaches are better than Tomlin?

Excluding Belichick and Reid, which CURRENT NFL head coaches in your opinion are better than Mike Tomlin?

 

SMH

 

Kyle Shanahan for sure

 

Maybe if he won a Super Bowl .

 

The super bowl of Tomlin was 14 years ago.If I would start a team today,I would take Shanahan over Tomlin.It don't mean that Tomlin is bad but I prefer Shanahan who make 1 super bowl apparence and a another NFC title game with Jimmy G and a another NFC title game with a 7th round rookie QB and all this in the last 4 years.Matt Ryan also won the MVP when Shanahan was his OC in Atlanta

 

Shanahan also was the OC that choked away a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl, I think they had a 3rd or 4th and 1 and decided to pass, and Matt Ryan fumbled that led to New England comeback. The 49ers also had a double digit lead in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

 

I would actually take Shanahan over Andy Reid....imagine Him with Pat Mahomes.
So like I said before....OP.....I believe Tomlin is a top 5 HC in the NFL. Why ??? Because I can't name any coaches over 4 of them.... that are currently in the NFL....that I would take over Him.

 

Blame that on their HC.
Actually every Qb that has been under Shanahan from RG3 to Mister irrelevant.....has had their best years under Him.

 

The HC didn't call the play that led to the fumble, the OC did, if they were leading it didn't make any sense to call a pass play in that situation.

 

All coaches with teams that made the playoffs this year.

 

Can any other coach speak the way Tomlin does?

1. Tomlin
2-32 who cares

 

Tomlins done a very good job as a HC with what he's had to work with lately and I'm not a huge fan. His biggest disappointments for me are his selection of assistants. There's about 26 teams right now that would take him in an instant as their HC.

 

If his defense would make a one more stop...Shanahan deserve some blame for that but Dan Quinn was the head coach.The head coach is responsible for clock management and game situation

 

Name them....because I can't. I do this every year in My head, and I never can come up with more than 4 legitimately. I mean if I just want to count a HC one year stardom....then Yes, but not if I really look at the whole thing.

 

Kyle Shanahan, Nick Sirianni, Doug Pederson, Sean McDermott, Zac Taylor.

 

EVERY DAMN SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! COME AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Four of those five coaches haven't won a Super Bowl. Time will tell.

 

And then the I-85 bridge in Atlanta caught on fire and collapsed two months later with one of the best meme...

 

hmmm - not 26

Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Bengals, KC, Dallas, Philly, NE, Jax, and Rams to start, would have NO INTEREST.

too much style over substance, Tomlin is middle of the pack , IMO.

 

SDOT.
no wait That's GM

half the posters here think they are

 

I give You one of them. Shanahan. The rest are either flash in the pans , or haven't done anything yet. JMO

 

See I don't agree, but that's cool.
I do give You....
Shanahan, Belichick, Carroll,maybe Harbaugh, and maybe Reid....I'm stuck on Reid because He has coached for 24 years as a HC, and just now Won SBs. Thanks to P. Mahomes.
Harbaugh went with Lamar because He was about to lose His job, and had No choice, and in doing so caught most the league unaware, saved His job, but now He knows No more SBs with Lamar at the helm. So He's stuck for now.
Pederson had one magical year....McDermott has really done nothing. You talk about squandering talent....McDermott is the man.
JMO

 

That's so subjective. Tomlin piled up the accomplishments in the first 5 seasons of his career (and he probably gets into the HoF for it), but since the Tebow disaster he/we just haven't had the same postseason mojo. We had really great teams in the 2010's but really never got over the hump. Some of it is bad injury luck (I think we were without Bell twice and AB from the Burfict hit), but the losses to Bortles and the Jags and Mayfield and the Browns at home were definitely Tomlin disasters. Those are two bad QB's on not great teams that absolutely blew us out of the water in the first quarter because they were better coached and better prepared to win. No two ways about it.

Tomlin is just not a traditional coach in the league. A TOTAL players coach and not much else. The players LOVE playing for him, they would run through a brick wall for the man... That is an excellent trait to have. But he seems outmatched when other teams start adapting and we stay stuck in our "standard". He is a poor clock/timeout manager, can be questionable with some of the personnel decisions, a poor in-game adjustor, never wins a challenge, and in my opinion is a horrible in-game manager in terms of when to go for it and when not to (for some reason I end up yelling at the TV quite a bit for this every season). He has performed best with a cast of stud coordinators around him, but we haven't had that in some time.

The problem is that the new wave of talented young coaches are all great X's and O's minds either offensively or defensively. They all bring different systems and flavors to the table. Tomlin doesn't. At all. His style is a dying one, and he will be a proverbial "dinosaur" at his position in a half decade or less. However, he has had success with it, so it is hard to blame him for sticking with what works.

At the end of the day Coach Tomlin IS a good coach (even as someone who is more of a detractor), just not in the traditional way. He's a motivator and talent evaluator. Masterful. But really bad in almost all other areas. Personally, I think there is a fair number of coaches that have coached in Tomlin's career that could have performed as well or better than Tomlin with the cards he was dealt. He's still good, but I just don't think he's great. He had an opportunity to be great, but kinda squandered it. He has one last opportunity to be great. If he can take KFP and this team and build a SB winner, then he is objectively great. He tends to coach underdogs a LOT better than he does frontrunners, so maybe he has a shot.... But if we peter out and become somewhat irrelevant in the next few years, then he's just a good coach.

A good coach that was brought into a GREAT situation and capitalized while the iron was hot. That's who Tomlin is at the moment IMO.