Epic Takedown - Yes Another Canada Thread

DK Sports had a great takedown of Canada and his offense based on what they saw on the field at the game. It's criminal how this offense is being run.

 

I’m now getting annoyed that they wasted Ben’s final season with such a loser OC.

 

This team is the biggest dumpster fire in my 50 years of watching them. No direction. No control. No accountability. No Game plans and apparently no big deal to the ownership. Are we headed for the brown paper bags on the heads of fans at this point? Should we just take SDOT's advice and actually boycott? What's it going to take to turn this around? Players are no longer put in a position to succeed. Something needs to change. That's for sure.

 

Canada believes the team quickest to the sideline wins the game. We will jet sweep and motion the other team into a lull.

 

Maybe just maybe if we keep posting Canada threads Tomlin will get the hint

Guess not...

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/10/m...-to-steelers-offense-dont-feel-like-im-there/

 

You were okay with the fichtner years...

 

I don't think anyone has ever explained to him where the end zone is.

 

One of the best comments was it's hard to go 13 or 14 plays in row without something going wrong, not getting enough of long plays and too many short play designes, especially with a rookie QB. Get Pickens downfield and throw longer passes to him once in a while and let him go up and get it.

 

This explains why he loves the run-run-pass 3 and out he gameplans so often...

 

Pretend, if you will, that Kenny completed that last pass for a TD and we won the game. How may posts would that one play have prevented on here? How about if we actually did catch ju;st one or two of those interceptions and it allowed us to win the game? What if Holmes only had one foot in the end zone and we lost to ARI in the SB, you think many would have attacked players and coaches afterwards? One play can change an entire season or off season. I am not a Canada fan at all and he is one of many who need to go, but we're losing not just because of him. This team has issues on both sides of the ball and on the sidelines. That is why a complete change in direction may be needed in order to attack all issues of the team before, during, and after each game. JMO>

 

Matt Canada’s offense is largely a run-first offense using a lot of inside and outside zone concepts.
It is an offense that relies on:
a. Versatile tight ends,
b. A smart running back with good vision,
c. Mobile and strong run blocking linemen
d. A Quarterback who can run a lot of run pass option (RPO) plays and execute play-action well.

They hired Pat Meyer to be the offensive line coach. Mike Munchak was on the market, but his team’s run games haven’t been what the Steelers want to run in Canada’s offense, and they chose scheme fit which is zone blocking. The thing about inside zone schemes is there isn’t a single designed run lane the back must run through. It is Pat Meyer's job to get his linemen to operate in synch and take care of the level 1 block and get to that second level. Many here knock-on Najee Harris, who did have a steel plate in his shoe, but it is Harris that makes the most of this blocking scheme. Harris removed the steel plate and we saw the Harris of old but not enough of him.

Matt Canada’s offense does rely heavily on being able to run between the tackles as many college and NFL offenses do; because if you can force defenses to focus on your interior run game it opens up everything you want to do, from outside runs to play-action to QB runs, everything gets easier when you can run up the middle successfully. The problem is consistency, the numbers of plays they can call that are executed reliably.

With Canada as offensive coordinator, the Steelers are averaging a measly 15.3 points per game — close to a touchdown less than the NFL average over the past decade.

But the problem becomes much more complicated, if you fire Canada, then you should fire Meyer and replace the entire schema. Do you do that mid-season?

My personal thought has been more of a wait-n-see, but in viewing films to look at George Pickens I am constantly picking up on just poor design. It's one thing if he's trying to hide inconsistencies; I know we have shredded the players who make up the line but the film sort of brings out that these guys are better than that, it is the schema.

To run the zone blocking schema, you need to man it with linemen that fit it.

If they fire Canada mid-season, how do you implement changes? Can you? It is not anything new to see an OC fired at this point. How bad does this screw up the progress of your young QB?

One option would be to retain Meyer and keep running the zone schema but a straighter forward version of it, something like the Broncos ran with Terrell Davis.

Canada has fallen from my graces, I have seen enough to recognize that what he is doing, just doesn't work. My trepidation is that Mike Tomlin has to make that call and in doing so, probably cannot salvage the season.

I'm not going into the passing game, it is mostly the lack of the ground game that is the source of a lot of our pain.

 

I don't think you need to trash the entire playbook after firing Canada. They can start by using what's been installed and making some minor modifications and then expend the changes over time. For example, maybe run a receiver into the middle of the field to make the defenses respect it. The rest of the play can remain relatively unchanged. Per DK and his sidekick, they were watching the field and Kenny wasn't missing seeing receivers in the middle of the field. Nobody was even there.

Maybe vary Pickens' routes once in a while and throw to him more. There are sane and minor things this offense can do that will increase the changes of scoring an extra TD each game.

 

MOF IS HOT LAVA

 

I have said this in other posts but if you see a chart of where the Steelers throw the ball it looks like a short u . Everything short and to the sidelines how can a guy be an NFL OC and have a scheme that does not use a third of the playing field, its's ridiculous.
If anyone sees one of these charts or route map or whatever you want to call it imagine being a DC and know that you don't have to defend one third of the field.
I have to watch old videos of Hines on a quick slant or Heath running right down the hash marks.
After this many weeks of treating the middle of the field as if its some kind of impassable chasim or crevasse every DC must just play both safties wide.
And we all wonder why our WR never get separation , no one is challenging the middle to draw off coverage.
Running for 2.5 getting stuffed for 1 and forcing a pass for an incompletion or INT isn't working.
Ben at 40 % sure did a lot by getting the ball out quickly and on target to hide how truly bad this offensive concept is.

Maybe now is not the right time to change OC with a rookie QB but did Canada explain to Tomlin exactly what his offense would look like and was Tomlin dumb enough to say yeah that should work in the NFL.

 

For the life of me I can't even remember the team right now, but the commentators were praising the success and a lot of that praise went to the O line coach who was also the run game coordinator (maybe the seahawks?). At the point idk who is in charge of what, but long term I'm wondering if our whole system is just outdated. I honestly don't know, some teams I've actually seen over 20 Asst coaches and coordinators and just thought how whacked that seemed, I also remember a time when Noll was the special teams coach and our total coaching staff was like 7 as opposed to a standard 12 in the league at the time. Bottom line it has to start at the top..Tomlin, if he cannot fire Canada has to assume or relegate play calling to another person. The results on the field are laughable and no Tomlin speeches is going to keep the locker room together.

 

Please STOP!

 

I’ve only been ok with the Whiz and Haley as OCs for Ben

 

I’m ok with a losing season but make it an epic losing season so we get some draft picks what concerns me is will coach Tomlin hire the necessary people to us contending agsin I’m not so sure.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/mike-tomlin-not-ready-make-changes-struggling-steelers-offense

 

I can sum up canadas offense in hundred less words for you. Run the ball behind a crappy o line who sucks from center to left tackle for two yards twice. Then on third down and five run a two yard pass. Punt. Or on third and one or two throw a fade out of bound into double
Coverage

 

Punt. Punt punt. And never even come close to scoring 20 points unless d has a lick six or get five turnovers and puts in’s in fg range a lot. Canada offense in a nutshell .
Oh I miss the glory days of du knhodges iffense where we hit 20 sometimes

 

I think I could beat Matt Canada in Madden.

 

Here is a nice tweet that says it all about m canadas offense.

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Every #Steelers drive in the second half vs Dolphins: Punt Punt Punt Punt Punt Interception Interception This isn't a joke... This actually happened.
1:02 AM · Oct 24, 2022