dwyer should be starting

RobVos · Oct 22, 2012

Dwyer only had 16 attempts in 2011 for 123 yards, but 76 came on a single run in the Tennessee game. He had 11 carries for 107 in that route of the Titans (split carries with Redman that game). Ben had 5 TDs that game.

JackAttack 5958 · Oct 22, 2012

FeartheBeard said:

JackAttack 5958 said:

RobVos said:

Mendenhall would have had over 150 yard in this game had he been in and healthy. Dwyer played well and I was impressed with his nimble footwork. To those comparing him to Bettis - not even close. Bettis was bigger, had better feet, and hit harder. One good game and people get a little carried away. Bettis was a once in a generation type back.
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But that's the thing, it's not just one good game. Dwyer has been successful every time he's gotten an opportunity. His opportunities have been limited but he has had success when he's been on the field. Look at his YPC. This guy had over 6YPC in college and is averaging about 5.5+ in limited action in the NFL. Mendy's average YPC last year was 4.1. I'm not saying Dwyer is a better RB than Mendy, but he is head and shoulders better than Redman and should be the backup to Mendy at worst and we ought to give hime 12-18 carries a game.
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Didnt he start against Tennessee last year and have a monter game???
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Not sure he started, but didn't he take one to the house from 70 or 80 yards against TN?

FeartheBeard · Oct 22, 2012

JackAttack 5958 said:

FeartheBeard said:

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RobVos said:

Mendenhall would have had over 150 yard in this game had he been in and healthy. Dwyer played well and I was impressed with his nimble footwork. To those comparing him to Bettis - not even close. Bettis was bigger, had better feet, and hit harder. One good game and people get a little carried away. Bettis was a once in a generation type back.
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But that's the thing, it's not just one good game. Dwyer has been successful every time he's gotten an opportunity. His opportunities have been limited but he has had success when he's been on the field. Look at his YPC. This guy had over 6YPC in college and is averaging about 5.5+ in limited action in the NFL. Mendy's average YPC last year was 4.1. I'm not saying Dwyer is a better RB than Mendy, but he is head and shoulders better than Redman and should be the backup to Mendy at worst and we ought to give hime 12-18 carries a game.
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Didnt he start against Tennessee last year and have a monter game???
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Not sure he started, but didn't he take one to the house from 70 or 80 yards against TN?[/quote:1iyue9i6]

Yeah, I believe that is what I am remembering

FeartheBeard · Oct 22, 2012

RobVos said:

Dwyer only had 16 attempts in 2011 for 123 yards, but 76 came on a single run in the Tennessee game. He had 11 carries for 107 in that route of the Titans (split carries with Redman that game). Ben had 5 TDs that game.
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Thank you! I knew he had a big run - I couldnt remember if he started the game or not.

gpguy · Oct 22, 2012

JackAttack 5958 said:

FeartheBeard said:

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RobVos said:

Mendenhall would have had over 150 yard in this game had he been in and healthy. Dwyer played well and I was impressed with his nimble footwork. To those comparing him to Bettis - not even close. Bettis was bigger, had better feet, and hit harder. One good game and people get a little carried away. Bettis was a once in a generation type back.
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But that's the thing, it's not just one good game. Dwyer has been successful every time he's gotten an opportunity. His opportunities have been limited but he has had success when he's been on the field. Look at his YPC. This guy had over 6YPC in college and is averaging about 5.5+ in limited action in the NFL. Mendy's average YPC last year was 4.1. I'm not saying Dwyer is a better RB than Mendy, but he is head and shoulders better than Redman and should be the backup to Mendy at worst and we ought to give hime 12-18 carries a game.
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Didnt he start against Tennessee last year and have a monter game???
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Not sure he started, but didn't he take one to the house from 70 or 80 yards against TN?[/quote:24qc0hny]

No he didnt start...but he played a lot more. Last night was his first official start.

RobVos · Oct 22, 2012

Finnigan caught him on the 76 yard run, so no TD. I do not think he has scored a TD in the NFL yet.

lovembig · Oct 22, 2012

Dwyer looks for the contact and that will wear on a defense. at the end of his runs he was lowering his shoulder and wanted to run guys over. most of the Cincy defensive players were trying to get out of his way.

its too early to call him the next Bus, but he always makes the most of his playing time.

FeartheBeard · Oct 22, 2012

RobVos said:

Finnigan caught him on the 76 yard run, so no TD. I do not think he has scored a TD in the NFL yet.
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Ah, yes....the horse collar that then wasn't a horse collar

SteelCity_NB · Oct 22, 2012

As long as Mendenhall is injured, of course Dwyer should be the starter. He is just by far a better runner than Redman. I like Redman's hard running style but Dwyer is just a more polished RB. He has superior vision, he can catch the ball (*cough* Batch *cough*) and he is a very good pass protector.

People tend to forget that most regarded Dwyer as a 1st round prospect after his sophmore season. What hurt him was Georgia Tech's scheme and the failed drug test at the combine. I still think he could stand to improve his conditioning. I love the fact he is looking for contact 20 yards down the field but I'd rather see him try and outrun the safety, not just run through him.

IN saying all this, Mendenhall is the choice if he is healthy. Other than vision, he has higher attributes across the board compared to Dwyer or any of our other RBs.

I think Batch should be de-activated once Mendenhall comes back. I'm comfortable with Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman & Rainey. I don't care that Batch plays ST and made some nice blocks in last year's training camp. I'm tired of watching him plow into the back of one of our OL for a 2 yard gain.

steelersrule6 · Oct 22, 2012

SteelCity_NB said:

As long as Mendenhall is injured, of course Dwyer should be the starter. He is just by far a better runner than Redman. I like Redman's hard running style but Dwyer is just a more polished RB. He has superior vision, he can catch the ball (*cough* Batch *cough*) and he is a very good pass protector.

People tend to forget that most regarded Dwyer as a 1st round prospect after his sophmore season. What hurt him was Georgia Tech's scheme and the failed drug test at the combine. I still think he could stand to improve his conditioning. I love the fact he is looking for contact 20 yards down the field but I'd rather see him try and outrun the safety, not just run through him.

IN saying all this, Mendenhall is the choice if he is healthy. Other than vision, he has higher attributes across the board compared to Dwyer or any of our other RBs.

I think Batch should be de-activated once Mendenhall comes back. I'm comfortable with Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman & Rainey. I don't care that Batch plays ST and made some nice blocks in last year's training camp. I'm tired of watching him plow into the back of one of our OL for a 2 yard gain.
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I think Batch is the ST captain though doubt he will be de-activated.

KnoxVegasSteel · Oct 22, 2012

LOL. Because our ST is so awesome you can't deactivate the ST captain...

SteelerGlenn · Oct 22, 2012

I got one thing to say,
"Gangnam Style"

gpguy · Oct 22, 2012

steelersrule6 said:

SteelCity_NB said:

As long as Mendenhall is injured, of course Dwyer should be the starter. He is just by far a better runner than Redman. I like Redman's hard running style but Dwyer is just a more polished RB. He has superior vision, he can catch the ball (*cough* Batch *cough*) and he is a very good pass protector.

People tend to forget that most regarded Dwyer as a 1st round prospect after his sophmore season. What hurt him was Georgia Tech's scheme and the failed drug test at the combine. I still think he could stand to improve his conditioning. I love the fact he is looking for contact 20 yards down the field but I'd rather see him try and outrun the safety, not just run through him.

IN saying all this, Mendenhall is the choice if he is healthy. Other than vision, he has higher attributes across the board compared to Dwyer or any of our other RBs.

I think Batch should be de-activated once Mendenhall comes back. I'm comfortable with Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman & Rainey. I don't care that Batch plays ST and made some nice blocks in last year's training camp. I'm tired of watching him plow into the back of one of our OL for a 2 yard gain.
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I think Batch is the ST captain though doubt he will be de-activated.
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There is no special team captain this year...just Ben and Keisel.

gpguy · Oct 22, 2012

SteelCity_NB said:

As long as Mendenhall is injured, of course Dwyer should be the starter. He is just by far a better runner than Redman. I like Redman's hard running style but Dwyer is just a more polished RB. He has superior vision, he can catch the ball (*cough* Batch *cough*) and he is a very good pass protector.

People tend to forget that most regarded Dwyer as a 1st round prospect after his sophmore season. What hurt him was Georgia Tech's scheme and the failed drug test at the combine. I still think he could stand to improve his conditioning. I love the fact he is looking for contact 20 yards down the field but I'd rather see him try and outrun the safety, not just run through him.

IN saying all this, Mendenhall is the choice if he is healthy. Other than vision, he has higher attributes across the board compared to Dwyer or any of our other RBs.

I think Batch should be de-activated once Mendenhall comes back. I'm comfortable with Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman & Rainey. I don't care that Batch plays ST and made some nice blocks in last year's training camp. I'm tired of watching him plow into the back of one of our OL for a 2 yard gain.
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I agree with the running into the back of the OL...he's had some good runs/etc...and is an OK player (that will get better with time)...but at this point Dwyer is better than him.

GB_Steel · Oct 22, 2012

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Tomlin_Era said:

FeartheBeard said:

I really like the way Dwyer runs the ball. He hits the hole hard and doesnt dance around in the backfield. He did a great job tonight!!
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Exactly and I also like how he tries to put a hurting on would be tacklers
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Yes! He doesn't try to get cute when he knows his time is up, he draws a laser bead on the nearest defender and closes in for the assault. I love that mentality!

HinesWardHOF · Oct 22, 2012

SteelTerp said:

I think the only thing for certain is that Batch should be limited to backup duty and nothing else
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and never throw to batch again... cant catch

HINES

Wardismvp · Oct 23, 2012

SteelCity_NB said:

As long as Mendenhall is injured, of course Dwyer should be the starter. He is just by far a better runner than Redman. I like Redman's hard running style but Dwyer is just a more polished RB. He has superior vision, he can catch the ball (*cough* Batch *cough*) and he is a very good pass protector.

People tend to forget that most regarded Dwyer as a 1st round prospect after his sophmore season. What hurt him was Georgia Tech's scheme and the failed drug test at the combine. I still think he could stand to improve his conditioning. I love the fact he is looking for contact 20 yards down the field but I'd rather see him try and outrun the safety, not just run through him.

IN saying all this, Mendenhall is the choice if he is healthy. Other than vision, he has higher attributes across the board compared to Dwyer or any of our other RBs.

I think Batch should be de-activated once Mendenhall comes back. I'm comfortable with Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman & Rainey. I don't care that Batch plays ST and made some nice blocks in last year's training camp. I'm tired of watching him plow into the back of one of our OL for a 2 yard gain.
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Could not have said it any better!

Bristerfan · Oct 23, 2012

gpguy said:

steelersrule6 said:

SteelCity_NB said:

As long as Mendenhall is injured, of course Dwyer should be the starter. He is just by far a better runner than Redman. I like Redman's hard running style but Dwyer is just a more polished RB. He has superior vision, he can catch the ball (*cough* Batch *cough*) and he is a very good pass protector.

People tend to forget that most regarded Dwyer as a 1st round prospect after his sophmore season. What hurt him was Georgia Tech's scheme and the failed drug test at the combine. I still think he could stand to improve his conditioning. I love the fact he is looking for contact 20 yards down the field but I'd rather see him try and outrun the safety, not just run through him.

IN saying all this, Mendenhall is the choice if he is healthy. Other than vision, he has higher attributes across the board compared to Dwyer or any of our other RBs.

I think Batch should be de-activated once Mendenhall comes back. I'm comfortable with Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman & Rainey. I don't care that Batch plays ST and made some nice blocks in last year's training camp. I'm tired of watching him plow into the back of one of our OL for a 2 yard gain.
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I think Batch is the ST captain though doubt he will be de-activated.
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I think he is the ST captin..coach T even said so in an interview be for the Titans game.Said they even let him out on the field for the coin toss...Also Batch is by far our best blocking Rb.He does a really good job picking up the blitz. He's our new Mewelde Moore.......What ever happened to John Clay?
There is no special team captain this year...just Ben and Keisel.
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TerribleTowelFlying · Oct 23, 2012

......What ever happened to John Clay?
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He tore his quad during preseason. I read that he just tried out for the Bengals last week, and I think he's got other teams scheduled for workouts.

CANTON STEEL · Oct 23, 2012

SteelerGlenn said:

I got one thing to say,
"Gangnam Style"
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