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Dulac saying Fields will be QB in 2025

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by DJ18Baller, Jan 18, 2025.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    If you would like to engage with me, then come out from behind the button and do so. If not, then don't. Please don't pull this nonsense. Thank you.
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Truly you have a dizzying intellect.

    Pickett is a bad QB, everyone in his class was terrible sans Purdy.

    I’d be willing to bet money this QB class will be better.
     
  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    It might be, though I have my doubts about the two guys ahead of Dart.

    It is a simple concept. Each player is an individual prospect. Their ability of their contemporaries is irrelevant to their ability.

    The quarterback class was so weak in 1984 that none of them went in the first round. Did that make Boomer Esiason a worse player?
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Dart had three pretty good years in the SEC, Kenny was only good for one year at Pitt.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    What I posted was a simple concept. You’re complicating it, maybe because of your need to defend Pickett.
     
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  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Your simple concept is not relevant to evaluating Pickett or Dart. That the 2025 class might be better doesn't make Dart a better player.

    I argued against taking Pickett the night he was taken. I wanted them to take Linderbaum. You were the one who wanted them to take a guy who ended up lasting into the third round with that pick.
     
  7. HeinzMustard

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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Get lost dude. You created a whole argument I didnt make.
     
  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  10. Blast Furnace

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    Schefter and Rappaport are reporting that Fields has a market and that Wilsons is drying up. I trust the national media guys more than the local guys.

    If you dont sign Fields than you need to make an aggressive move to get Darnold. Which I wouldn’t be opposed to. Darnold was under siege his last two games he did poorly in. We just watched Mahomes suffer the same fate. I’d be willing to roll the dice on Darniold.
     
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  11. Formerscribe

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    I would rather they go after Darnold regardless of Fields, but I never wanted Wilson or Fields last season. I doubt Fields will be any better this season, but at his age, Wilson would only be worse.
     
  12. HeinzMustard

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    Steelers O line is much worse than Chiefs and Vikings. Darnold better hope Fautanu is All Pro and the light switch clicks on for Broderick Jones... or it's gonna be more of the same.
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

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    I think the Steelers line will be good and their struggles were mainly due to injuries. But yes, if they can’t protect Darnold then it will get ugly but you can pretty much say that about any QB.
     
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  14. Vox Ferrum

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    the last line if offered 20 million, how should the steelers answer? See ya. I get they may have to pay something above what many would not feel he is worth, hell for that keep the 3rd string guy we had last year, offer him 5 million and put the rest in building the team. Most the guys in FA are football 'bums', might as well admit it, and change direction to be in a position to draft a quality guy. Just do it.
     
  15. SteelLion69

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    I agree. If we can't land Fields then take a chance on Darnold, he is only 27. He was decent last season with the Vikings he was decent. We need to avoid overpaying for washed QB's in their late thirties.

    Hard pass on Rogers or Wilson. This team needs to get younger.
     
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  16. steelersrule6

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    Did you watch that Chiefs OL in the Super Bowl I'm not sure they're better than the Steelers.
     
  17. Aerosteel

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    In the last 30 years, 80% of the winning Superbowl teams won with a QB they drafted (24 out of 30.) Unless there is a Tom Brady out there in free agency, you must try to draft the best QB as high in the draft as you can until you find your franchise player. Signing Wilson, Fields or Darnold is fine for the short term, but you have to draft a QB at the same time because none of those free agents are going to be the solution.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

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    It won't matter if the Steelers don't get off their hands and get aggressive. They need to move fast on Darnold. The Seahawks are apparently looking at him as their guy after trading Geno Smith to the Raiders. The thing is, the Steelers have the better supporting cast and more cap room.
     
  19. woofermazing

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    I guess I should clarify.

    Lane Kiffin runs an offense where the quarterback is not asked to make post snap reads, does not have to go through progressions, and leans heavy on RPO's. Dart might be a better prospect long long term, but he will be incredibly raw and limited to start. Because of the Ole Miss offense, there's literally no tape out there to show if he can read and process a defense, or progress beyond one read.
     
  20. Vox Ferrum

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    Aggressive yes, stupid no. If the asking price is something they can get out of in 2 years, something like the Baker deal with TB, then yes you have to consider it, but if the guaranteed money hamstrings you for 3 or 4 years, is the aggressive approach worth that risk with a guy who has shown only one good year. I am not excited with any of the choices. Darnold had a great year with a great system and scheme, great weapons, and with the sparce selection available he probably will get a offers. I know you can't sit and wait, but you can put yourself in a deeper hole if you make moves in desperation.
     
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  21. Wardismvp

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    If Shedur Sanders is there at 21 do you draft him?
     
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  22. Thor

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    I mentioned this somewhere else here recently, but I was reading an article on this draft and quarterbacks in general and one of the contributors recalled an NFL GM once telling him that there were three situations a team wanted for a QB. In order, they were: a blue-chip on a rookie contract, a blue-chip on a second contract, and finally a QB on a rookie contract.

    The underlying thought is to not tie up large chunks of your cap with a fading or otherwise average QB hoping to catch lighting in a bottle, and to instead use that money building the team up around him. The Steelers have been skating that line since Ben retired; Trubisky was fairly cheap, Pickett was on his rookie contract, and Wilson/Fields were extremely cheap last year. But now they're at the crossroads again.

    I'm extremely leery of Darnold, especially if his camp is looking for the kind of deal being rumored. Fields would be a step or two below that, but I wouldn't put it past an organization like the Jets to throw money at him and drive his market out of whack with his worth. The Bucs and Vikings were fortunate with how they acquired Baker and Darnold - both were modest signings that were put in a starting position and did well with it. Neither Wilson nor Fields did much last year, which puts the Steelers back at square one.
     
  23. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    to me it's ewers, howard, slough. howard may take a tick longer. slough we know the age thing. ewers i'm just not sure how to evaluate him. i've watched a lot of him but there is just something i'm unsure about with him. i think you can win with him but always wanting more. still not sure i wouldn't draft two of them. have to see how it plays out.

    shore up the o-line for the future. add to the DL. get a couple of WR's to add to GP in free agency. i'm really leaning towards demarcus robinson and slayton.

    pick up a guy like ricco dowdle to team with warren. you can also add one late in the draft.

    pick up a corner. spend this money wisely on spots that help and not grasping at hopes and dreams that don't really improve the team. sign kyle allen or mason back. allen knows the offense. mason had a bad titan team around him. we did win with him and now have a more structured offense. ideal? no, but may be enough to not tank and make the transition smooth. i do think allen and mason could help the young guys enough to move forward. even cooper rush would be a good option. we could sign them all for what they may spend on fields and get very similar results.

    fix the line and protect the passer. :cool:
     
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  24. Wardismvp

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    He has much ugly in his game, everything has to be in his favor, MN. has two all pro WR's
    and an innovative HC/ OC. He is a turnover machine.He will see plenty of ghosts lining up
    with the Steelers offensive line/ coordinators HC.
     
  25. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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