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Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Jan 16, 2023.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Let's not even think this. I would be so freaking pissed.
     
  2. SteelersFan369

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    QBs Lamar, Huntley and rookie Anthony Brown are known as being able to run the ball. Would Mason fit in there?
     
  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    They are changing the offense Coordinator
     
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  4. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I think Rudolph would be a good fit with New England. BB could work wonders with him.
     
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  5. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    He would be the 3rd string QB in New England behind Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe.
     
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  6. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Or the next Tom Brady. :shrug:
     
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  7. jeh1856

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    Local news said the Ravens and Jackson are $100MM apart

    Baltimore has said they will use the tag if need be

    Jackson said he will consider sitting out

    Crystal ball sees kidanalyst yelling pay the man and Jackson being LeVeon.2 after sitting out
     
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  8. SteelReal

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    Business move. Most of us wouldn't understand it. Perhaps he thought being less was more also. No Lamar present, no distraction. Who knows??
     
  9. SteelReal

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    A former MVP is way better then decent. I'm curious what he would be if he had a top 10 wideout to go with that TE. I'm going to only assume you went with a descriptive of decent because it's hard for him to stay healthy and his availability makes him more of a concern then an asset. He's top 10 QB otherwise ...and close to top 5.
     
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  10. SteelReal

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    Upping the ante on these contracts is bad for the entire league. Once you start going down this road there's no going back for all of them. I was thinking this immediately when Dak was asking $35 mil back in the day from Dallas (which is basically less than bargain rate now for a slightly above avg QB). There's no way Dallas should have paid him that money then. He wasn't sniffing a SB then and he still hasn't, yet hes at mid $40s now (if not higher) because they restructured it. QBs like him who have never even been to a SB should never have been making much more then Tom Brady was....yet here we are. Market is going to be at minimum $45 for any QB considered Franchise worthy after awhile.
     
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  11. 4124life

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    Very good QB but I think organizations are weary at the moment of massive QB contacts. Cam newton was an mvp too, who cares.
     
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  12. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    NFL.com had on its site today that the Ravens will most likely franchise Jackson. The tag will cost them around 47 million this season, let's see if he holds out or signs the tag.
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

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    I read somewhere once in an article about the cap league wide and it mentioned having a separate pay structure for QB’s, kinda of like two caps but it was more nuanced than that. Seemed like a good idea, wish I could recall more of it.
     
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  14. Brice

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    I am still waiting to see where Greg Roman turns up. Unless he shows up in a college somewhere, I would bet that Lamar Jackson is not far behind in signing with whatever NFL team Roman goes to.

    I am seeing some mention of Greg Roman being in Washington next year.

    Could the Ravens, Tag and trade Lamar Jackson to Washington?
     
  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    MVP only means You had a great regular season. Many of MVPs have done nothing their entire careers outside of that one MVP season. Hell the NFL has had MVPs that only had 3 winning seasons their entire careers.
     
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  16. Brice

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    What in the world are you talking about?
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  17. S.T.D

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    Well how about Cam Newton....3 winning seasons out of 11???
    Matt Ryan 5 winning seasons out of 16??? WOW!!! That's great. LoL
    How about 9 of that short list You showed that never ever won a SB, or do SBs only matter for the Steelers.
    Also I didn't know the NFL just started in 1989. LoL
     
  18. SteelReal

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    Sometimes it has to do with the team they put around you.
     
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  19. Brice

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    Actually after your comment I was expecting to see some 1 hit wonders; players who had won the MVP that I had never heard of. Like the Heisman; some of those winners never went on to do anything in the NFL. Even your "Duds" on this list had over 10 years in the league.

    And, yes I did not go back to 1933 to see who was on the list, just the top section from Wiki.
     
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  20. S.T.D

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    So ....Dobbs has how many years in the league.
    All I'm getting at is the MVP is not the be all end all that You are a great player. Like some try to say. I would say never having won a SB, and not even having half Your career as a winner is proof.
     
  21. Hanratty#5

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    I took a peek at the Ravens message board to see what they were saying about Lamar. Instead a thread that caught my eye was one about a fight between Joey Porter and Ray Lewis in the parking lot after a game. Some Ravens players said they witnessed it but none gave any details about the fight. It was funny to see what the Ravens fans said about what they thought the outcome was. One said that Lewis would have torn apart Porter in less than 10 seconds. Another said that the only way Porter could have won was that 3 other Steelers jumped in to help him. The poster said that it would be the Steeler way to fight dirty lol. The fact of the matter is that if only other Raven players saw it and kept quiet about who won the fight, then that probably means that Joey kicked Ray's ass.
     
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  22. Rollers

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    If they franchise him they'll owe him something like 30 million right?
     
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  23. zcoop

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    45 million
     
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  24. Rollers

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    Wow. Didn't realize it was that high. Thanks
     
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  25. Steel_Elvis

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    There can’t be enough drama over this to satisfy me. The more, the better. The absolute best case is for him to sit out part of a season, and then the Ravens blink and give him a mega deal that binds their cap for the next several years.

    These two points sum up my view on Lamar:

    1. the good- he’s dangerous enough that on any given Sunday he can blow up and have a great game (especially running), and is a killer of weak defenses in the regular season, BUT,

    2. the bad: he’s still inadequate enough as a passer that I don’t think he’s capable of winning enough games in the postseason against better teams for the Ravens to be anything more than a playoff team that goes one and done, or two and done at best.

    I wouldn’t want him on the Steelers on a large contract, that’s for sure. The “danger factor” will decline over time as he gets older and takes more and more hits. So far I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he’ll mature enough as a passer to be a great QB.
     
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