Doom or Boom Friday

A more logical comparison imo.

 

One didn't really show 1st round pedigree his 1st year, no?

 

You don't think one Starting out across from the should have been DPOY Watt, and the other staring out across from Jarvis Jones wouldn't be a difference???
That's not counting the D line difference each started with.
I'm not say Highsmith isn't good, or can't be.
I'm saying context.
That would be like me saying well ... You fought Mike Tyson and Lost.
I fought Joe blow and Won. Therefore I'm better.

 

I`m interested to see how Bud does on his new team. I`m happy we did not sign him, but not sure about my thesis that he was mainly useful due to the players around him like Watt and the rest of the pass rush. I`m also suspicious he could be the type of player who`s play falls off after getting a new contract. Put it this way. I believe in Watt, but not Bud.

Totally unsure about how good of a player he really is on multiple levels. We will see. I could be absolutely wrong, but my gut says good decision not keeping him.

 

James harrison and watt?

Jarvis jones, James harrison and watt dupree started out with.

 

Well Marsh and Highsmith were the guys replacing Dupree that's why I singled them out , nobody on defense played good in that game.

 

No he didn't . Watt wasn't even on the team, and Harrison didn't even start but one game. Come on.

 

Translation: You've got nothing.

 

If Dupree struggles with the Titans it doesn't mean he wasn't a good player with the Steelers, the Titans are one of the worst pass rushing teams in the league, the Steelers run a more aggressive scheme.

 

If you watch the games, you saw Highsmith getting out of position plenty against the run. Go back and watch the loss to the Bengals.

The sample size for Highsmith is way too small for that to be valid. Also, it is skewed by playing an incompetent third-stringer for the Colts, though even then he still couldn't actually get to the quarterback.

You dismiss sacks, but actually getting home matters. It is one of the big advantages Dupree has over Highsmith, the ability to close on the quarterback once he does beat the blocking.

 

Exactly. Context.
My new word for the day.
LoL

 

Garbage sacks? Now you really are making things up. He made huge plays in tight games, such as the pressure forcing the huge interception in the opener against the Giants and the strip sack early on in the first victory over the Ravens. Those are just a couple of examples.

 

He couldn't get any defensive snaps with the Lions, he was signed because of special teams, I doubt he's an option in the dime defense.

 

Funny how the excuses come out only for certain situations.

Bush had been out for a long time before they lost Dupree. In fact, he missed all but one of those games you mentioned. Alualu played in every single one of the games Highsmith started. The time he missed was while Dupree was healthy.

 

Your entire Bud > Highsmith opinion seems to be anecdotal and based on a handful of plays. I trust the analysts who break down entire games, not just a couple highlights here and there.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-underr...s-improved-and-which-teams-got-the-best-value

"Dupree is one of the riskiest bets in the 2021 free-agent class. Before he went down with a torn ACL last December, Dupree was notching sacks left and right. It's an attractive stat that teams will pay up for, as was evident this past week, but not every sack is the same. Dupree saw more than 60% of his pressures in 2020 come courtesy of cleanup or unblocked situations — by far the highest rate at the position — and generated a lowly 61.2 pass-rush grade which ranked 71st among 105 qualifiers.

That's been the story of his career. All but one of Dupree's six NFL seasons ended with him earning a sub-62.0 pass-rush grade. He might boast a high motor, but he doesn't consistently win true one-on-one situations. His departure from Pittsburgh's scheme likely will reveal that."

 

TJ wasn't on the radar until "AFTER" 1st rounder Dupree's rookie year, there's that.

 

I got you comparing Highsmith to Dupree, which is out in left field concerning the discussion.

Edit: unfairly i will add.

 

But it means the Steelers didn't need to pay him what the Titans paid him. Bud was good, but was largely a product of the system and supporting cast.

 

Dupree excelled in our system. We'll see him perform in other systems, maybe he'll figure them out.

 

Disagree. Watt has excelled. Bud was considered a bust until 2019, and even the last two years while his stat production has improved, it's a lot of smoke and mirrors.

He's Vic Beasley North.

 

It took him awhile but he was excelling at what they wanted him to do.

 

Can Beasley play the run like Dupree ?

 

Watt got here in 2017 when bud became a starter. Prior to that bud couldn't beat out anyone. He started 9 games in those first two years. Jones played 41% of the plays on defense buds rookie year. He played 45% of the plays buds second year. Harrison played 55% his rookie year and 56% buds second year.

 

Garbage plays are ones that come when the game is not on the line. You really should understand terms better before you use them.

Your post also doesn't account for some of the biggest advantages that Dupree has over Highsmith, such as the ability to set the edge and the ability to actually get the quarterback when he has an opportunity. You continue to ignore the latter in particular.

You also failed to acknowledge the inaccuracies in another of your posts on the thread, such as claiming that Alualu was out when Highsmith became the starter. Alualu played in every one of the games Highsmith started. You are so busy relying on these analytics that often ignore actual production that you aren't even getting very basic things correct.

 

No, smoke and mirrors are things that didn't actually happen. It's funny how you are so reliant on projections while ignoring actual production.