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Dobbs and Mason: Futures so bright...

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    .....and the same could be said if LJ was still here....
     
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  2. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    Very true.
     
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  3. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    No idea on other things stated but this is a Solid point.
     
  4. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Second coming of what specifically?
     
  5. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Landry Jones.......Obviously
     
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  6. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'll be the first to admit I was wrong that Landry would not be cut.

    Before the Panthers game I would have said 100% Landry stas. Dobbs definitely stepped up under pressure.

    I would still have to think Mason may be listed as the #3 but would be the go to guy should something happen to Ben.

    Let Dobbs continue to Develop and he could really turn into a weapon some day.
     
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  7. AskQuestionsLater

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    Five starts....



    Such transcendent knowledge and experience!!!
     
  8. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Easy explanation....they were trying too keep his immense talent a secret for as long as they could,so they could keep the most experienced,capable back up in the league.
     
  9. SteelerGlenn

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    Maybe he forgot the green font?
     
  10. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    I was wrong about Landry Jones. Glad Dobbs stepped up and made the team. Dobbs should be #2 out of seniority over Rudolph and general principle.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah right you didn't admit to anything, I posted last season Carnell Lake was on the hot seat then you act like I didn't know what I was talking about. Then when Lake was let go I called you out on it, then you said something like kiss your butt because you weren't going to eat crow :shrug:.
     
  12. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Well technically according to the Steelers themselves ,Lake left on his own to be with his family,so,we don't really know if he was on the hot seat or not. Just like we don't know if LJ would of given us the best shot to win a game. Unless it was against Cleveland which is the only proof we have that he could....
     
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  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah just like Arians retired from the Steelers :facepalm:, that's just the Steelers trying to keep it classy with a former great player who wasn't getting the job done as a DB coach.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not only did you call me a liar again, you're flat out wrong. Below is my response to Scribe after the loss. You owe me an apology.

    As for Lake, I see you want me to admit to things that didn't unfold the way you say. Lake retired and whether that is a cover story or not, we don't know for certain. Get back to me when you have something real. Just because you are incapable of admitting you are wrong doesn't mean no one else can either. Lets see if you're a big enough man to apologize.

     
  15. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Maybe but we will probably never know for sure....
     
  16. turtle

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    I thought Carnell Lake on the hot seat was common knowledge....:lolol: Having never developed a DB will do that to a coach. Just a pimp as a player though. But they said Jagr couldn't teach a guy to fire a slapshot either soooo... You can't teach innate abilities.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Wouldn't say that. Most notable is Gay. Also Cockrell, McCain and Blake. Yes, Blake played well until they tried to make him a starter.
     
  18. turtle

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    Gay was in his 4th year by the time Lake was hired and then left for a year to AZ. McCain was in his 5th year when he came to Pittsburgh, Blake was like you said.

    Cockrell had promise out of Duke, so that pickup was commendable. I still stand by what I said. The results for the guys you mentioned are debatable. Gay did shine after returning from AZ so is that Lake or Gay being in his 6th year??
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Gay turned his game around in Lakes first year here, if you remember, he was everyones favorite whipping boy before that. Then he went to AZ before returning. All the other guys performed better under Lake, too.
     
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  20. turtle

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    Yes or No? Carnell Lake was a competent coach who should have been retained?

    I thought he got the moniker "Big play Willie Gay", before he left but I may be wrong. If so, then maybe he showed splash plays before leaving for AZ? Why else would the Cards want his services, other than Ray Horton's familiarity?
     
  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He never had much to work with Turtle. He finally started getting some talent in Burns and Davis and then left. I thought squeezing the most out of the guys I mentioned was a pretty good job and Gay turned out to be a good player.

    He had his misses of course, like Cortez but Im not entirely sure that was all on Lake. Cortez seemed to develop some problems upstairs.

    I just always felt the heat that Lake took was unwarranted since most of the times they were giving him late rd picks or bargain basement FA's to work with.
     
  22. turtle

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    I can't argue with that bro...and my dislike for Lake as a coach is well documented so no need to re-hash here...

    here's hoping Bradley is an upgrade on coaching AND the FO puts an emphasis on DBs in the future.

    But because I'm an ornery prick, I hope Sean Davis is upgraded and Marcus allen goes to the PS in favor of Adams LOL. Gimme something Colbert :lolol:
     
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  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Actually, I wasn't aware, I somehow missed that :lolol:

    And yeah, agree about Bradley. Hoping he can do for the DB's like Munch did for the line. Apparently he's the same type of coach, very detailed and a tactician.
     
  24. mcam

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    I didn't think there was a chance in hades that Landry Jones would be released this year. This was mostly due to the Steelers previous loyalty toward him as well as him having a consistent preseason. Add to it we're in a Superbowl window as well as Jones sitting out the second game when Ben was out for a concussion, I figured his spot was secured. So I was a bit surprised when they released him, but not disappointed. I'm glad they kept Dobbs.

    I've been a Landry Jones advocate mostly out of response to what I see to be an often inaccurate appraisal of his abilities. I think Jones proved to be a serviceable backup. I also think people are at times over hyping Dobbs and Rudolph making them out to be more than they currently are.

    With all that said, I like the fact they are giving Dobbs a chance. The "safe" route would have been to go with the veteran. This is a message to Dobbs that he's going to have a chance to show that he's got what it takes to be successful in this league. You can't depend on your feet. Everyone's as fast as you. You need to be able to quickly diagnose defenses and make decisions on the fly using your arm. Many QBs from College have not been able to make that transition. We'll see if Dobbs can. I'm rooting for him.
     
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  25. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Coaches no matter the player are supposed to make said player better, Lake could not. Retired? I think not. It was time...but

    this is about the decision to go with 2 unproven QB's who have no starting experience. I personally was surprised but hey, Laundry was not a world beater, but a system back up. Obviously Dobbs performance in the last pre season game solidified the decision. And who will be the back up or #3 is anyone's guess. And yes I was one who thought Dobbs would be released and the brass would play it safe and keep Laundry, so if it's crow I eat make it under glass with a nice red wine. I also am on the record of saying Dobbs didn't impress me much. Hence why they selected Rudolph. Only time will tell. Hopefully we don't have to see either of them this upcoming season except for mop up.
     

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