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Do you think mason should be our #1?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Mar 13, 2025.

Do you think mason should be the starter for the season?

  1. Yes

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    59.5%

  2. No

    32 vote(s)
    40.5%
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  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    If they had stayed with Fields maybe that would have improved.

    They gained nothing by going with Wilson and got no further answers about Fields.
     
    Blast Furnace, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:47 PM
    Blast Furnace, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:47 PM
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They got to 10-3 by going with Wilson :shrug:
     
    steelersrule6, Apr 2, 2025 at 11:33 PM
    steelersrule6, Apr 2, 2025 at 11:33 PM
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  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    “Maybe” it would have improved? Fields did very little with Pickens, and he was somehow going to be better than Russ without Pickens? I distinctly remember than after a few games with Wilson you acknowledged that the offense was more effective. The team’s collapse was a TEAM collapse. Wilson was a part of it, but it takes a leap beyond logic to say that it would have been better under Fields after what we saw early in the season. The offense was ugly under Fields. It was solid under Wilson until we hit the Eagles buzzsaw without our only real WR threat. Things went off the rails after that for the entire team.

    Bottom line: we saw enough of both Fields and Wilson to need a new plan A at QB. I wish both of them well, and I’m happy that we will be going a different direction.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Apr 3, 2025 at 6:56 AM
    Steel_Elvis, Apr 3, 2025 at 6:56 AM
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don’t know how anyone still makes this argument in hindsight. What did they gain by staying with Wilson? Most of us believed he was no good anymore and while they had a few nice games when he took over so what? In the end he sucked, will always suck and should not be a starter in the league anymore.

    My point has always been that Fields was the smarter play so they would know where they stand going into the 2025 season. I get it, you don’t like him as a QB but we’ll never know if he would have continued to improve last season and maybe been the answer this year instead of pinning their hopes on a 41 year old QB. They offered Fields 30 million so they must have felt he had potential, maybe had they played him the whole season they would have felt he was worth matching the Jets offer.

    Given how that season ended how much worse could it have been with Fields? They would have lost by bigger scores? Or maybe the end with a couple more losses to their overall record, ok, better draft position.

    Playing Wilson was a loser move with pie in the sky thoughts of him ever leading the team to a SB.
     
    Blast Furnace, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:36 AM
    Blast Furnace, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:36 AM
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Did they get a participation trophy for that?

    They got to 4-2 with Fields, will never know where they would have ended up because they played a guy that just about everyone else knew was washed up.
     
    Blast Furnace, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:45 AM
    Blast Furnace, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:45 AM
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  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Playing to win was the loser move? How does that twisted logic work in your head. That was the reason for playing Wilson, that Tomlin believed the team was better with him at quarterback. He was right about that. To me, giving up on the season six weeks in would have been the loser move. Sticking with Fields when it was clear the offense wasn't nearly good enough with him at quarterback was giving up on the season.

    Fields has been in the NFL for four seasons. He has been a starter most of that time. He still has no feel for the pass rush. He still struggles to read defenses. Most importantly, he still can't throw passes with touch. That takes away so many options. Any offense with him at quarterback is extremely limited. The only improvement he showed was cutting down on turnovers, but that also seemed to come with a corresponding lack of big plays.

    Your whole argument is based on this idea that Fields could have been the long-term answer at quarterback. The evidence does not support that idea.
     
    Formerscribe, Apr 3, 2025 at 8:26 AM
    Formerscribe, Apr 3, 2025 at 8:26 AM
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  7. jeh1856

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    They got to 0-5 to end the season by going with Wilson :shrug:
     
    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:02 AM
    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:02 AM
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  8. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Are we honestly going in a different direction? Going after another qb, that nobody wants? I definitely didn’t like picking up Wilson or Fields, but now a geriatric Rodgers? Wow
    And to top things off, they brought back Mason! IMG_0885.gif
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:24 AM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:24 AM
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  9. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:35 AM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:35 AM
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  10. jeh1856

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    Remind me

    What was your quarterback plan
     
    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 10:35 AM
    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 10:35 AM
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  11. jeh1856

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    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 10:36 AM
    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 10:36 AM
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  12. Steelpens65

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    It sure wouldn’t be the plan or is it a plan that the Steelers are currently doing.
    My plan was drafting this guy last year IMG_0907.jpeg
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:43 AM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:43 AM
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  13. steelersrule6

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    He didn't play good but that 0-5 wasn't all on him, the OL and running game was trash and the defense faded too.
     
    steelersrule6, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:44 AM
    steelersrule6, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:44 AM
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  14. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    I only reposted for the humor.
    We no longer have any quality media
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:44 AM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:44 AM
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  15. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Scrub didn't show anything when he started last season :lolol:
     
    steelersrule6, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:45 AM
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  16. Steelpens65

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    Yeah, and Steelers will continue to use retreads and never was qbs. Washed up qbs that nobody wants.:shrug:
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:47 AM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:47 AM
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  17. jeh1856

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    Nice the way you move the goalposts when corrected
     
    jeh1856, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:59 AM
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  18. Michael E

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    Fields and Wilson were and are not the answer. That's called "treading water".

    I'd rather they TRY to get a better QB, even if they whiff or even if some think Rodgers isn't better (hint, he is, though he isn't vintage Rodgers for sure).

    I am not at all against drafting a QB in round 1. I think it'd be wise to draft a DL (clear area of need and youth) IF one that looks to be a day 1 starter and disruptor is there for the taking. If Nolens and Harmon and Grant are gone, then DON'T reach for a DL. Take the CB or LB or OT or OG that slides too far or take your QB.

    I am one of the few on this board that will not be all up in arms if they draft a QB at pick 21. It would be NICE to trade back a few spots and add a day two pick before doing so, if possible, but otherwise, would not bother me. There is lots of talk of still good DL available later, but not having round 2 pick is a concern. I am still not really convinced the trade for Metcalf was wise given the day 2 pick AND massive contract. He is a specimen, but hardly a WR1 as far as polish or needing constant double-teams or safety attention.
     
    Michael E, Apr 3, 2025 at 12:33 PM
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  19. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t be upset either, as long as it isn’t Milroe!
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:09 PM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:09 PM
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  20. forgotten1

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    The OP THREAD was a simple

    YES OR NO

    but @Mashburn@Mashburn had to add

    thoughts?


    SHEESH.

    FLAT EARHTERS.
     
    forgotten1, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:38 PM
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  21. Blast Furnace

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    Do you honestly think with all the arguments I have made for Fields and against Wilson that I think Wilson gave them a better chance to win. Don’t mention logic if you aren’t going to apply some before commenting. Yes playing Wilson was the loser move and the results proved that.

    Yes, Tomlin believed it, he was wrong, so were you. You still fail to see that a team that ate 60 million or whatever it was to be rid of a player was a poor choice to lead the team. You convinced yourself in light of that because you don’t like Fields as a QB but only one of them offered any real chance of a future and yes best chance of winning last year.

    But here’s the thing, I didn’t feel that Fields would lead them to a SB either but I sure as hell liked him better than Wilson leading the team whom had no shot of winning a SB and offered nothing as a long term starter. PLAYING HIM MADE ZERO SENSE.

    You were wrong, you were fantastically wrong. Deal with it.
     
    Blast Furnace, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM
    Blast Furnace, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM
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  22. Steel_Elvis

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    That washed up guy led the best stretch of offense for this team last year, and it wasn’t close.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Apr 3, 2025 at 2:00 PM
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  23. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Truthfully, what did they gain from either one? One and done, they both gone
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 2:56 PM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 2:56 PM
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  24. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 3:01 PM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 3:01 PM
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  25. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Aboutit
    Why do I think of breastes seeing this word:hmm:
     
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 3:04 PM
    Steelpens65, Apr 3, 2025 at 3:04 PM
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