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Do you think mason should be our #1?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. Yes

    39 vote(s)
    58.2%
  2. No

    28 vote(s)
    41.8%
  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I never suggested that the 2023 game was your only argument, just that it was a ridiculous one. In fact, I responded to the part about the first meeting in 2019 as well in my first response. I wrote about the Bengals' linebacking corps being a shambles. Most of what Rudolph did that day was short dump-off passes to his running backs. It was some of the early Madden games, when you found a couple of plays the computer couldn't figure out and ran them over and over again. Most high school quarterbacks could handle a defense that bad. (I've added some detail in this post, but I wrote the basics earlier. I guess you just missed it.)

    What he did against the Bengals in 2023 in no way supports your implication that his bad game against them in 2019 was concussion-driven fluke. It was four years later, with different coaching staff a different set of players. That you asserted otherwise makes it very difficult to take your argument seriously.

    Regarding the concussion, you don't know the severity of the one Rudolph suffered in 2019. Some concussions look absolutely frightening and the guy is fine a week later. Others look like nothing and the guy is out for months. No concussion is the same. They aren't like broken bones, where there is a set recovery time. Please just stop with the notion that you can tell it was the worst thing ever just by watching it on television. You can't.
     
  2. Tiggs99

    Tiggs99 Well-Known Member

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    You are completely wrong on the fact it was mostly dump off passes that any high school qb could have handled. Most Cincinnati starters weren’t injured. In any case your argument does nothing to disprove my point that Mason injury and distraction affected that later game. If you were to do a cluster analysis on his game statistics of nfl games played(statistical term), that game would be outside his cluster with more than 95 percent confidence limit.
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2025 at 6:37 PM
  3. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    yes - just like I told you we were last year :rolleyes: you forgot our crash and burn after the 10-3 start, I see. Many do, time seems to heal the lemmings....

    doomed means SECOND RATE, SECOND TIER

    that is ALL we will ever be with Tomlin
     
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  4. RichD

    RichD Well-Known Member

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    Yes I made it up just my thoughts on MR and his Steelers history. Not much else to choose from .Just read this thread and from what I gather you don't like Mason and wanted Darnold but he's gone now. Not sure why you are so worked up about MR. We need a bad season to move up in draft and get a new QB suspect. What's wrong with trying MR this season if Rodgers doesn't sign ? As a lifelong Sports fan I can handle having a real bad season or 3. Players come and go, like some but not others it really doesn't matter to me. Its just entertainment and sometimes $$$ chances.
     
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  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say they were injured. I said the unit was in shambles. Their linebackers were woefully slow and constantly out of position. It was one easy throw after another. Hell, a lot of them were little tip passes to running backs at the snap. Hell, Jaylen Samuels completed all three of his attempts on similar passes. Running backs caught 17 of the Steelers' 27 receptions in that game, eight each to Samuels and James Conner and one to Benny Snell. With the Steelers up 14 in the second half, Rudolph hit Diontae Johnson for a 43-yard touchdown pass. Everything else was short stuff. Even his 21-yard touchdown to Conner was a short pass that the back turned into a touchdown.

    That aside, it isn't all that unusual for a player to have a strong game against an opponent once, then struggle against them later that same season. Hell, Russell Wilson did it against the Bengals last season. He carved them up in the first meeting between the two teams, then stunk up the joint most of the night in the final game of the regular season. Are you going to claim he had a brain injury that night, too? No. Of course not. You only make excuses for Rudolph.

    I see that you have moved on from misrepresenting what I posted now that I set you straight. Please acknowledge your error. Better yet, acknowledge how foolish it was to claim that how he performed against the Bengals in 2023 is in any way relevant to evaluating what happened when he played against them in 2019.
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2025 at 8:32 PM
  6. RichD

    RichD Well-Known Member

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    Scribe, I`m guessing it's just my opinion that you watch Steelers games alone. You probably rant and rave around the living room and act a fool. I will admit I don't remember what Rudolph or Jaylen did in a game back in 2019. I really don't care. Bet you had to go to the box score to get all that info just so you could bust some balls .lol I really never pay much attention to who posts what but you are everywhere in every thread. Damn
     
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