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Do the Steelers have a title caliber defense?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  2. Coke Oven

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    Given the way they roll over and play dead on 3rd and long, certainly not.
     
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  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    No, But if the offense does what it is suppose to we should out score these opponents. LOL
     
  4. mac daddyo

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    we won't know until we see them. :cool:
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    not sure what story you have highlighted there 6. :cool:
     
  6. jeh1856

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    I'm thinking we should be better than last year:

    Burns, Hargrave and Davis all have a year under their belt and should make the next step.

    Dupree should be better.

    Watt should be an upgrade over JJ.

    One more DB and I would think championship caliber is a possibility.
     
  7. strummerfan

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    It's a little early to say what the 2017 defense is going to be
     
  8. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Steely McBeam would be an upgrade over JJ but I digress...
     
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  9. Steel_Elvis

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    I think we can if the edge guys perform. First and foremost is for Dupree to take the next step and be the guy that his raw talent and work ethic suggest he can be. Second is for a 1-2 punch of JH and TJ making things tough on the left tackle. If we can generate consistent pressure on the edge, it will allow the rest of the pieces to come together. We already have capable (and young and improving) interior rushers. If the edge guys can dictate protection schemes, it will open things up for the interior guys and/or take away an eligible receiver from the offense for protection. Here's looking at you Bud.

    It would also help to improve our interior pass defense, mainly the slot and 4th WR/TR coverage. I think we're ok with Cockrell (Mr. underrated) and a developing Burns on the outside. Where we really struggled was covering the interior guys and underneath zones. We've clearly attempted to improve in that area with the additions of Sesabaugh and Sutton (plus the potential for Golson to emerge in that area). We'll see if the new guys are up to the task. Also not to be overlooked, we rarely took Timmons off the field in passing situations, though we probably should have. I expect to see VW come off the field for an extra DB a lot on passing downs.
     
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  10. VTSteelerfan

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    Injuries will tell the tail..
     
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  11. mac daddyo

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    yep. with cam and bud all year we would have been a different defense last year as well. one thing it did do was get some guys added work that wouldn't have gotten it otherwise. that helps this year.:cool:
     
  12. thorn058

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    I'd also like to see some creativity and game planning to exploit other teams weaknesses as well.
     
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  13. dd63

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    Potentially, and the key here being potential, yes they do. IF the offense plays up to it's very high potential, then the defense only needs to be good, not great, and that should be enough to have a shot at a championship. And given the talent on the defensive side of the ball, barring injury there is no reason why they can't be at least a good defense.
     
  14. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    This.


    Essentially speaking, how fast can TJ develop, how well will Artie be and most importantly, how soon can the defense gel?


    The sooner the better.
     
  16. Da Stellars

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    Our DB's are not great. Its all about the front 7 staying healthy and getting after it.
     
  17. Steelers89

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    We all know which team it is they need to game plan around to beat. We all know which team the Steelers are gonna need to dethrone in January to advance. Therefore it doesn't matter how well the D does this season. It's only going to matter how they perform when they meet you know who late in the season and likely in the playoffs too. Until they finally beat the team that shall not be mentioned....well it just doesn't matter. At least not to me.
     
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  18. Wardismvp

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    My goodness somebody is thinking out of the box. I think we have a winner here.
     
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  19. mac daddyo

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    thanks 6. i agree with what they say. people have to remember this group is young. the biggest thing that will help this defense is martavis bryant, jesse james and grimble on offense added to what we have. it could make teams press and become one dimensional to play catch up. keeping brady off the field is how you beat them. health come playoff time is key and getting home field advantage would be nice. don't stumble during the season and that is possible. :cool:
     
  20. mac daddyo

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    as they age together we should see that. so many young players still learning to become a vet defense. field time together should help this. they are getting there. :cool:
     
  21. LoneGranger

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    Unfortunately, the offense rolls over and plays dead inside the 20 and settles for a field goal or a BB interception.
     
  22. LoneGranger

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    Outside the 20 the offense works. Inside the 20 not so much. So out scoring anyone may be problematic.
     
  23. Diamond

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    I agree with this article that fans have a defeatist attitude when it comes to the patriots, the reason I dont is because it only takes one win against them to snap out of it, sorta reminds me of when we played the colts in the playoffs as big under dogs and won, I feel we will have a dominating top 5 defense that will put the fear in NE when we play them and we can beat any body this year and we will, it's all about mental attitude and from what i'm seeing and hearing from players they will fear no one in 2017........
     
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  24. Lambert

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    No. We continue to neglect the secondary.
     
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  25. jeh1856

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    Half of our first and second draft choices over the last 3 years have been secondary. Hardly a neglect.
     

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