Do anyone believe the current steelers leadership can end this offensive nightmare

Brice · Oct 11, 2024

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Offense is doing fine. Just need to make the defense play better apparently.
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3 Turnovers and a blocked FG and the offense still can't score over 20.

And, my obligatory Fire Pat Meyer!!!! Comment

Michael E · Oct 12, 2024 at 12:27 AM

BigBensBigBong said: ↑

If we were just a little better we would be 5-0 and there would no talk of dumpster fires.
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If we were just a little worse, we'd be 0-5 and Tomlin would be getting another extension.

Someone, anyone, please END this nightmare.

DJ18Baller · Oct 12, 2024 at 7:08 AM

Michael E said: ↑

If we were just a little worse, we'd be 0-5 and Tomlin would be getting another extension.

Someone, anyone, please END this nightmare.
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Steel_Elvis · Oct 12, 2024 at 8:11 AM

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It is very difficult to gauge what is actually happening in Pittsburgh behind those closed doors. They play VERY close to the vest.

I'll take a shot at Omar, the golden child.
He HAS to make moves happen when they become a glaring need, and he cannot play wait-n-see crap either.
The best GMs are active with the coaching and often down on the sidelines at some point.

I don't think Omar has the vision nor the spark to be a top-notch GM in this league.

I have to say something about this philosophy "Play not to lose" bs on offense.
If that is your offensive game plan, you need to go and go now.
If you haven't noticed, the NFL rules are set up for the offense.

Now back to the Omar track.
Omar thought it was a good deal to go out and grab another Chicago cast off.
And add a Veteran who has been subpar for3 years, maybe 4.
Ryan Leaf anyone?

In this NFL, GM's have to be aggressive.
To answer the question, I'd say no for now.
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What? Let’s take a look back:
Need: ILB; Khan signs Queen to a relatively modest contract and drafts a guy who looks like a future star in P. Wilson
Need: O Line; Khan drafts 3 more early lineman, 1 of which looks like a 10-year center and the other was showing well in his limited time before injury. Last year he traded up to get Jones.
Need: SS; Khan gets a pretty solid player in Elliott to plug the hole for now
Need: WR; Khan pushes all of his chips to the center of the table on Aiyuk - if anything he was too aggressive in that one. He also drafted a very solid #2 WR prospect who was injured early in camp.
Need: Nickel; Khan gets a guy who was one of the best nickels in the league before Detroit tried to turn him into a MTM shutdown corner. Unfortunately the suspension is longer than I think was anticipated.
Need: QB; We absolutely swindle the Broncos with the Wilson signing. Then we trade a pittance for Fields. It wasn’t my favorite move, but it was certainly worth trying at that level of compensation given Fields’ natural talent. What should Khan have done in your view? Trade the farm to get into the Top 10 for someone like Bo Nix?

Is it Khan’s fault that R Wilson hasn’t seen the field yet? Is it Khan’s fault that Fautanu is losing his rookie season to injury? Is it Khan’s fault that B. Jones has regressed in his second season? Is it Khan’s fault that Daniels tore his Achilles? Is it Khan’s fault that Benton seems to have regressed a bit? Is it Khan’s fault that Queen seems lost on the field after being a very solid player in Baltimore? Most of all, is it Khan’s fault that just about everything we do on both sides of the ball schematically is predictable and exploitable?

What do you want to see for aggressiveness? Do you want Snyder level of aggression? A team with the roster that Khan inherited can’t solve every need with stars in 1 or 2 years. He has anticipated the glaring O line need, but it looks like MASH unit right now. He made a big swing for the fences at WR. He traded for a solid MTM cover who we’re now playing heavily in off zone. He aggressively addressed ILB.

I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.

CK 13 · Oct 12, 2024 at 9:49 AM

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I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
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Elvis is in the HOUSE! Well said.

mac daddyo · Oct 12, 2024 at 10:00 AM

week 2 with the same o-line. good news.
warren practiced fully. good news.
ade ogundeji was brought up off PS. good news for now. adds some needed depth at OLB. has a good many starts and snaps. over 1,000.

some +'s in a dismal looking week.

S.T.D · Oct 12, 2024 at 7:20 PM

Steel_Elvis said: ↑

What? Let’s take a look back:
Need: ILB; Khan signs Queen to a relatively modest contract and drafts a guy who looks like a future star in P. Wilson
Need: O Line; Khan drafts 3 more early lineman, 1 of which looks like a 10-year center and the other was showing well in his limited time before injury. Last year he traded up to get Jones.
Need: SS; Khan gets a pretty solid player in Elliott to plug the hole for now
Need: WR; Khan pushes all of his chips to the center of the table on Aiyuk - if anything he was too aggressive in that one. He also drafted a very solid #2 WR prospect who was injured early in camp.
Need: Nickel; Khan gets a guy who was one of the best nickels in the league before Detroit tried to turn him into a MTM shutdown corner. Unfortunately the suspension is longer than I think was anticipated.
Need: QB; We absolutely swindle the Broncos with the Wilson signing. Then we trade a pittance for Fields. It wasn’t my favorite move, but it was certainly worth trying at that level of compensation given Fields’ natural talent. What should Khan have done in your view? Trade the farm to get into the Top 10 for someone like Bo Nix?

Is it Khan’s fault that R Wilson hasn’t seen the field yet? Is it Khan’s fault that Fautanu is losing his rookie season to injury? Is it Khan’s fault that B. Jones has regressed in his second season? Is it Khan’s fault that Daniels tore his Achilles? Is it Khan’s fault that Benton seems to have regressed a bit? Is it Khan’s fault that Queen seems lost on the field after being a very solid player in Baltimore? Most of all, is it Khan’s fault that just about everything we do on both sides of the ball schematically is predictable and exploitable?

What do you want to see for aggressiveness? Do you want Snyder level of aggression? A team with the roster that Khan inherited can’t solve every need with stars in 1 or 2 years. He has anticipated the glaring O line need, but it looks like MASH unit right now. He made a big swing for the fences at WR. He traded for a solid MTM cover who we’re now playing heavily in off zone. He aggressively addressed ILB.

I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
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You definitely can't say he's tried

Karl · Oct 13, 2024 at 8:08 AM

Steel_Elvis said: ↑

What? Let’s take a look back:
Need: ILB; Khan signs Queen to a relatively modest contract and drafts a guy who looks like a future star in P. Wilson
Need: O Line; Khan drafts 3 more early lineman, 1 of which looks like a 10-year center and the other was showing well in his limited time before injury. Last year he traded up to get Jones.
Need: SS; Khan gets a pretty solid player in Elliott to plug the hole for now
Need: WR; Khan pushes all of his chips to the center of the table on Aiyuk - if anything he was too aggressive in that one. He also drafted a very solid #2 WR prospect who was injured early in camp.
Need: Nickel; Khan gets a guy who was one of the best nickels in the league before Detroit tried to turn him into a MTM shutdown corner. Unfortunately the suspension is longer than I think was anticipated.
Need: QB; We absolutely swindle the Broncos with the Wilson signing. Then we trade a pittance for Fields. It wasn’t my favorite move, but it was certainly worth trying at that level of compensation given Fields’ natural talent. What should Khan have done in your view? Trade the farm to get into the Top 10 for someone like Bo Nix?

Is it Khan’s fault that R Wilson hasn’t seen the field yet? Is it Khan’s fault that Fautanu is losing his rookie season to injury? Is it Khan’s fault that B. Jones has regressed in his second season? Is it Khan’s fault that Daniels tore his Achilles? Is it Khan’s fault that Benton seems to have regressed a bit? Is it Khan’s fault that Queen seems lost on the field after being a very solid player in Baltimore? Most of all, is it Khan’s fault that just about everything we do on both sides of the ball schematically is predictable and exploitable?

What do you want to see for aggressiveness? Do you want Snyder level of aggression? A team with the roster that Khan inherited can’t solve every need with stars in 1 or 2 years. He has anticipated the glaring O line need, but it looks like MASH unit right now. He made a big swing for the fences at WR. He traded for a solid MTM cover who we’re now playing heavily in off zone. He aggressively addressed ILB.

I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
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I see nothing wrong in disagreeing.
He makes moves, I don't agree with the value you place on them.
The QB's were "Ollie's specials" (let me know if you have never heard of Ollies.
There's just nothing special about him to me.
But I will say one thing, it does take a committee and not being a fly on the wall within the operations, blame might not be broad stroked enough.

Steel_Elvis · Oct 13, 2024 at 8:51 AM

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I see nothing wrong in disagreeing.
He makes moves, I don't agree with the value you place on them.
The QB's were "Ollie's specials" (let me know if you have never heard of Ollies.
There's just nothing special about him to me.
But I will say one thing, it does take a committee and not being a fly on the wall within the operations, blame might not be broad stroked enough.
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I didn’t say that they were all the right moves. You usually don’t know that at a macro level until a few years have passed. However, he has been very aggressive compared to Colbert, and I do think that Khan inherited a situation from Colbert that was rapidly heading in the wrong direction. As for the QB situation, what was available within reason? I have no confidence in any of the QBs from last year’s roster except for Rudolph as a#2. I don’t know what Ollies are, but if it’s some sort of bargain basement kind of reference, well, the doors to Neiman Marcus were locked.

Karl · Oct 13, 2024 at 9:10 AM

Steel_Elvis said: ↑

I didn’t say that they were all the right moves. You usually don’t know that at a macro level until a few years have passed. However, he has been very aggressive compared to Colbert, and I do think that Khan inherited a situation from Colbert that was rapidly heading in the wrong direction. As for the QB situation, what was available within reason? I have no confidence in any of the QBs from last year’s roster except for Rudolph as a#2. I don’t know what Ollies are, but if it’s some sort of bargain basement kind of reference, well, the doors to Neiman Marcus were locked.
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Spot on with Ollie's.
About all I can budge on is "maybe" he gets better as it is true, he is only really 1 year proven.
He did season with Colbert though, so not sure where that goes.
But in comparison to guys like Lynch, he sucks. That's a very high standard though.
He's got to find a way to be on the same page with the coaches to supply payers that better fit.
***Now I don't discount that fact that maybe Tomlin is the long pole in the tent. And despite what another poster argued, Yes, Omar does have a say in coaches.***
At the moment, all these bargain basement moves just total up to mediocrity.
I definitely could see a case for just taking some lumps, save the draft picks and address in the upcoming offseason - I just don't know if I have the faith in him for that but maybe.
The Steelers need that Franchise QB.. ne'er do wells will only do just that.
And to have a Franchise QB, they need to get some weapons to put around him.
So I guess "wait-n-see" probably isn't bad. I dunno.

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