1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.
    Dismiss Notice

DL's Defense

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 4EvrH8O'donnel, Nov 6, 2012.

  1. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

    11,348
    878
    Oct 16, 2011
    Dude, that's alot of yards! lol but yeah, I expected a good passing day by Eli. If I see more of the type of defense from this team that we saw against the Giants, then I'll feel good about it but the normal smoke and mirrors that produces our #1 ranking, we had that last year and Tebow beat us, I'll say that again, Tebow beat us. But what we saw this past Sunday was a dominant performance, they shut a good QB down. Now if we could just improve on pressuring the QB and take aways, then we'd have a defense worthy of a #1 ranking.[/quote:1emflsuf]

    400 yards isn't all that much these days. It's easily doable. It's a lot, but it's not an unreasonable amount in this day and age
     
  2. Stiller3

    Stiller3 Well-Known Member

    1,538
    9
    Oct 24, 2011
    Not yet.

    One game does not a season make.

    Ask me again in a few weeks.
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    44,623
    10,186
    Oct 16, 2011
    400 yards isn't all that much these days. It's easily doable. It's a lot, but it's not an unreasonable amount in this day and age[/quote:qyae7elz]

    Yes it is still alot these days. Only 2 QB's this past weekend hit that mark, Luck for 433 and Palmer for 414. To put it in perspective, only 3 other QB's broke 300 yards passing, everyone else was in the 200's or less, Ponder only threw for like 60 yards, I didn't think that was even possible :lolol:

    400 yards is a great freaking day. 200's - 300's is still what you mostly see.
     
  4. SteelinOhio

    SteelinOhio

    5,838
    1,547
    Oct 16, 2011
    :this!:

    I hope that my confidence in the D will have grown even more by then.
     
  5. SteelYourPoints

    SteelYourPoints Well-Known Member

    389
    0
    Oct 18, 2011
    I still think it's more about the players on the field than the Lebeau. Hampton is on the decline and we can all see it. His position is the backbone of the defense. Troy can't get on the field and when he does he goes down again. Our OLB tandem has been hit with injuries all year until this point, and I seriously doubt Harrison is at 100 percent. We've been putting this guy named Ryan Mundy on the field and for the majority of the season he has been garbage. Our best player on D this season may very well be Foote.

    Sorry, I'm not ready to blame the coaching yet.
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    44,623
    10,186
    Oct 16, 2011
    Execution is always part of it but when you have opposing players saying we've been running the same defense at them for 10 years then that's a little worrisome. Players that familiar with our schemes are going to have an easier time exploiting it's weaknesses.
     
  7. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

    920
    0
    Nov 18, 2011
    Foote and Clark are by far the best players on D this season. Larry is playing the best ball of his career right now if you ask me and really has stepped up in Farriors absence. Ryan is playing at his normal level which has always been great but is obviously being too controlled by the refereeing and Gooddell in trying to level the playing field. I fully agree with him that he is a target.

    Troy I'm gonna start calling China Doll.
     
  8. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

    920
    0
    Nov 18, 2011
    Like NY did?
     
  9. Stiller3

    Stiller3 Well-Known Member

    1,538
    9
    Oct 24, 2011
    Funny to think, what would we have said a year ago to this statement?
     
  10. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

    920
    0
    Nov 18, 2011
    There is no way I would have made that statement anytime in Foote's career. I always believed that Farrior was much much better of the two as a tandem.
    That being said the MVP of the defense so far is Foote.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    44,623
    10,186
    Oct 16, 2011
    Like NY did?[/quote:359v3ybo]

    No like Palmer and the Raiders did, like Peyton and Denver did, like Hasselback and the Titans did. 2 of those teams made comments about knowing what we were doing.
     
  12. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

    920
    0
    Nov 18, 2011
    Like NY did?[/quote:37uyoe00]

    No like Palmer and the Raiders did, like Peyton and Denver did, like Hasselback and the Titans did. 2 of those teams made comments about knowing what we were doing.[/quote:37uyoe00]



    I guess by that theory then RGIII was buried under attack because he just didn't have the experience.

    Doubt it had anything to do with DL schemes even though he's been tearing up every other D in the league.
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    44,623
    10,186
    Oct 16, 2011
    Like NY did?[/quote:xnr2pzo5]

    No like Palmer and the Raiders did, like Peyton and Denver did, like Hasselback and the Titans did. 2 of those teams made comments about knowing what we were doing.[/quote:xnr2pzo5]



    I guess by that theory then RGIII was buried under attack because he just didn't have the experience.

    Doubt it had anything to do with DL schemes even though he's been tearing up every other D in the league.[/quote:xnr2pzo5]

    Don't know where you were going with that but you only supported my argument. RG has never seen us and we limited him to 177 yards, DL is 14 - 1 against rookies so yeah, the less familiar you are with his schemes the harder it is to succeed against it. I don't know why'd you try to deny that the more a person is familiar with something the easier it becomes, common sense. Players from both the Raiders and Denver said they knew what was coming, you don't think that helped them?
     
  14. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

    920
    0
    Nov 18, 2011
    I'm saying that his schemes still work even against the experienced teams when his personnel is healthy. The guy continually has a top 5 defense year in and year out and yet people say the game has passed him by. I just don't think so.
    The RGIII statement was expressing that other teams struggle with the rookie phenomenom yet DL made him look.......well, like the rookie that he is.
     
  15. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

    11,348
    878
    Oct 16, 2011
    Atlanta also made him look awful, as did Carolina.

    DL schemes aren't getting pressure on the QB, and you can argue that his scheme is preventing the CB's from playing in such a way that they can jump the route and pick the ball off. When you're playing off the WR, it's hard to force INT's.

    I'm worried that lack of pressure and no turnovers is going to burn us against great QB's like Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Brady, Brees and Rodgers. Eli is very good at times, but he's not on the level of those other guys.
     
  16. niterider

    niterider Well-Known Member

    1,125
    169
    Jan 19, 2012
    Wow, foote for MVP? He's a serviceable player and is not having the kind of impact that deserves MVP. By design, his position should lead the team in tackles. He's horrible in space and slow. Are you guys watching the same game I'm watching?
     
  17. mrn6

    mrn6 Well-Known Member

    236
    4
    Nov 18, 2011
    I am eating crow
     
  18. lovembig

    lovembig Well-Known Member

    1,197
    4
    Oct 30, 2011
    i think people are saying the Steelers defensive MVP. if not him, than who? Clark would be the only other choice.
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

    30,136
    6,259
    Oct 22, 2011
    keenan lewis has been looking pretty good as of late. ike won defensive player of the week,last week. we did have an interception and we caused a fumble last week, so it's not like we haven't caused any TO's. we just need more. :cool:
     
  20. lovembig

    lovembig Well-Known Member

    1,197
    4
    Oct 30, 2011
    they caused a fumble, but they didnt recover it. they probably lead the league in "almost a" turnovers.
     
  21. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

    30,136
    6,259
    Oct 22, 2011
    still the play was made and a fumble was caused thats what we ask them to do. that ball has points on both ends so ya never know how it's going to go. it was still a nice play made. :cool:
     
  22. RobVos

    RobVos Well-Known Member

    978
    8
    Oct 16, 2011
    Dl prefers to make teams work hard to score with an orchestrated drive. They really try to limit the big play, as the big 'splash' plays often turn games and really give the other team momentum. They are more of bend, don't break - and this usually works. When you blitz more and gamble more going for ints, it is a risk/reward thing. Sometime you get the play, other times you are burned for a big play. I thnk DL is finding a nice medium and using the players he has accordingly. You can do more with Troy vice Allen/Mundy.
     

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!