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DJ: I ran the right route

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by biggbunch68, Nov 20, 2023.

  1. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    I guess not, but there is only about 15 WR's in the whole league that out-perform those stats... so I guess there are only about 10-12 impressive WR's in the whole league. As for losing all the same with or without him, I totally agree. With Kenny Pickett we could have AB, Ward, and Swann out there and he'd still throw for 120 yards and catch the L. That's why it is important to figure out why the production isn't there. Is it because the WR's aren't getting it done? Or does the QB suck? I tend to side with the latter.

    I agree that GP has the "it" factor and Could be a potential top 10 WR, he has that kind of talent. We just need to find someone to get him the ball.
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    If they get rid of DJ, that leaves them with only one legit WR in Pickens.
     
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  3. RipTydz

    RipTydz Well-Known Member

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    I saw where Kenny was asked about miscommunication between him and Johnson and he said there was and it needs to get cleaned up essentially implying Johnson ran the wrong route so then everyone jumps on Johnsons case. So I think in this instance Johnson was stating he ran the correct route and what the route called for. I don't believe either of them tried to throw the other under the bus, just a lot of frustration and we are seeing that now.
     
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  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  5. Steel Acorn

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    Maybe they each did what they thought they should given what they saw the defense was, but they read the defense differently. I read somewhere recently that the Ben-AB connection was so good because they were so good at both knowing what the defense was and could take advantage of it, especially on blitzes and broken plays. Pickett and DJ are so far from that chemistry. Never seems to be a hot route for KP.
     
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  6. mikeyg

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    yep - told you all we are far worse off than most realize.

    suck
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    DJ sucks
     
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  7. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    yep - most of Kenny's are

    he sucks too
     
  8. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    kenny rarely makes great throws. I am sick of it
     
  9. Lambert

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    Good. I hope the players keep talking. The owner is blind to this atrocity so the players need to force change.
     
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  10. pczach

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    I don't know. Here's what DJ said in an interview about Matt Canada: "It's not like he's intentionally trying to F@#k up."

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ts-not-like-hes-intentionally-trying-to-f-up/
     
  11. SGSteeler

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  12. Blast Furnace

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    Not throwing him under the bus here either. Where’s it coming from that he threw him under the bus?
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Agreed. Pickett is being babied enough.
     
  14. Karl

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    I don't think the offense is thinking anything near that.
    They're however, a bit tired of Canada who sucked before Kenny.
    Canada is not playing to anyone's strengths.

    And I do hold Kenny accountable as he is not playing well and those 3 and outs are not acceptable.
    But it is to the point where they are going to have to say something about Canada.
     
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  15. SGSteeler

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    Supposedly he took to social media and posted something to the effect of "I ran the route I was supposed to". He did this in response to the people @'ing him, blaming him for the miscommunication on the last drive that saw him run either a different route or back shoulder route when Kenny was looking at a go route.

    Personally, I don't see this as throwing Kenny under the bus. This quote (thank you for digging this one up for me haha) shows that he has gone out of his way to not call his QB out publicly for mistakes. It would be strange if that one was the final straw.
     
  16. strummerfan

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    Didn’t have 17 games then
     
  17. pczach

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    Saying his OC doesn't intentionally F up.....means he is F'ing up. It speaks to his performance and his ability to coach. What does it matter if he says he is on his side.

    DJ was saying the OC was screwing up. Ben was gone and Canada has been running his offense just the way he wanted to. That offense has been a disaster and keeps getting worse. It's not just Kenny Pickett. That's the most frustrating part of all of this. The one-sided bashing of a young player rather than seeing anything else being a possible reason.

    I keep saying that Pickett has not played well, but so many of you never want to criticize the offensive system he plays in or the coaches. You lay it all on Pickett. It just isn't so.
     
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  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    trouble is unless that bus is sitting on the sidelines kenny wouldn't throw it under said bus. he may throw it over the bus. if the bus was in the middle of the field he wouldn't even look at it and wait for a cab outside the numbers. :cool:
     
  19. Steelresolve

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    You like him I don’t. Forget about the stats. Just watching the way he plays, I just don’t like his style. He is soft. A lot like Najee. Everything has to be perfect for those guys to be productive.

    As a Steeler fan I have admittedly been very spoiled with all of our WR’s through the years. He just doesn’t have that alpha male it factor to him. To diminutive. Goes down easy, drops passes at clutch moments, isn’t always football smart. He is an Athlete playing football. He isn’t a football player.

    I named all the WR’s that played with AB or Hines up above. You tell me would he start over anyone of those guys?

    Hines Ward, Plaxico, Randle El, Santonio Holmes

    AB, Emanuel Sanders, Mike Wallace, Martavis Bryant, Juju.

    Who does he start over? Maybe Juju or Randle El but I highly doubt it. He just doesn’t inspire me at all. Definitely not worth resigning.

    I look at the players on the 49 ers offense and man I’m jealous. Just physical and imposing. We have two guys on that whole offense who are physical and imposing. Jaylen Warren and Broderick Jones that is it.

    Friermuth too he is extremely soft when it comes to blocking. I just believe part of it us culture based. We lost that culture somewhere along the way.
     
  20. nofieldfive

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    I don't care what DJ or any player said - the focus should be on Tomlin's continued nonsense talk - he seemed happy as they were only 'one or two plays' away from winning. "You know, I think the Cleveland Browns had a lot to do with that. I'd be, you know, disingenuous, man, if I didn't compliment them on their players, their schematics, how they played today, the venue component of it."

    is he calling an 'away game' a 'venue component'?
     
  21. Pappy928

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    COMPONENT COMPONENT ....this word out of his mouth four-hundred times this year. blaah
     
  22. SuperSteelers

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    DJ is known as a great route runner. No doubt Check Down Kenny is to blame.
     
  23. SGSteeler

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    It's a matter of poor wording and how literal you want to take the use of his language.

    I don't think I've been too one sided in bashing him, nor am I laying 100% of the blame on Kenny. I've mentioned in other posts that it is never 100% anyone's fault in a team game... but we have to face the fact that we have tried a lot of different things to help kick Kenny into gear and none of it is working. He's actually getting worse. We've tried designed roll outs with easy reads, we've tried putting 4 eligible receivers on one side of the field to open up more 1 on 1's and easier reads, we've changed our running game a bit to good success... but Kenny still isn't improving. Sure, you can blame coaching to a varying degree, but its hard to deny the results on the field. Kenny's inability to do anything successfully is knee-capping our offense.
     
  24. Vox Ferrum

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    say what you want about Lamar, they actually got him a couple decent receivers, the main RB and TE are down, he is averaging 70% cOMPLETION, 8 YDS AVG, 12 TD TO 5 INT. not terrific, but they are winning, 5th in the league at 27.6 points per game (up from 20 last year). He is doing what needs to done to win games.
     
  25. Wolfepack88

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    I thought the inference on TV was he was supposed to break the route based on the defensive alignment and perhaps the route break was supposed to be a go route since he had one on one coverage? I might be wrong but I thought that is what they were implying.
     
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