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Diontae Johnson is a #1 Receiver

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jan 13, 2022.

  1. burghfan58

    burghfan58 Well-Known Member

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    He is a great route runner. Now what route he is gonna run is a different story.
     
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  2. SteelersGermany

    SteelersGermany Well-Known Member

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    U guys are all so high on this WR corps. Don't get this. This WR corp ist mediocre at best. Most of them can't separate. We have no deep thread. Except juju they do nothing in blocking. And they can't catch easy balls in crucial moments. Diontae a no. 1 receiver? Ridiculous, as the YAC as well
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah, two drops were the reason they lost last night, we’d have killed them if he caught those!

    Oh wait, everyone else dropped passes in that game.

    107 receptions, 1161 yards and 8 TD’s with a QB that averages 4.6 yards. His 107 receptions is tied 6th most in Steelers history, 5th most league wide this year.

    He had 5 drops on the season, 7th fewest of all receivers. Less than Jefferson, less than Kupp, less than Ja’Marr Chase.
     
  4. SteelersGermany

    SteelersGermany Well-Known Member

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    With a QB that averages 6 yards. ...Oh u mean, he got his yards due his great YAC runs. Maybe it depends on the f****** OLine. I never saw unblocked sacks that often before. Give Ben more then a second, he probably averages more then 6 Yards. But this is your excuse for him. Then u will get much more reasons to excuse the performance of DJ next year, when the GOAT Mason throws the balls. I didn´t say it was all on him that we loosed today. Definitely not.
    But this guy destroyed the momentum completely after our first TD. We had the lead deep in the middle of the second quarter. We had the chances for some first downs, run the clock, keep mahomes out of the field, and maybe made some points at least. So it would have been much closer by the end of first half. What did these child do? 2 Drops on easy catches on crucial 3rd down conversions. Made a false start, felt on his ass untouched and miscommunicated with Ben. Great. F*** the stats, if u come out that bad in a very difficult postseason game u have to quit. There must be always a guy where u have to throw the ball. If RayRay had have 170 targets he would have made nearly the same stats. This Dude does nothing in blocking, nothing in YAC. And 8 TD´s for a no 1 receiver sounds not great for me. He is the WR with the most talent on our roster (except JuJu), by far. But his ball skills and YACs are an issue. Maybe the angry speaks out of me to much, but im completely done with this Dude.
     
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  5. biggbunch68

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    Funny Kupp, Chase, and Jefferson, has made plays for their teams all year long.... . I Cant Remember when our "#1 wr " made a play ....
     
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  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    johnsons drops have come in the last few weeks. he's more concerned about getting hit. :cool:
     
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  7. DJ18Baller

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    He’s an elite route runner and gets good separation. He has very questionable hands and appears to be a little short between the ears. Not a #1 unfortunately a very good 2 or slot.
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Actually its 4.6 yards adot, I gave Ben too much credit. And yeah, nearly half DJ’s yards came on YAC, around 527, yeah thats awful :rolleyes:

    He averaged 4.8 yac, Devante Adams averages 4.9 but he’s not a number 1 either, right???

    You accuse me of making excuses for DJ while you excuse the BIGGEST reason for this **** show, Ben. He is washed up but go ahead, keep hating on DJ, he’s not going anywhere. Ben is and hopefully they can get someone to succeed him sooner rather than later.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    LOL you must have been watching a different team. He’s literally made them all year long.
     
  10. SteelersGermany

    SteelersGermany Well-Known Member

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    You are a study of this game, me not. You are right, Ben is gone and problem is solved. I´m glad that we have such a tough guy and pretty good no. 1 WR on our roster, which i can enjoy watching
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    When you don’t have an argument to make, invent a fallacy and apply it to the person you are debating. Good job.
     
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  12. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I said further up in this thread that DJ is a lower tier #1. While the stats and much of his regular season game film bear that out, he choked massively twice in critical situations yesterday. Three times if you count quitting on the deep route where he has a step on the defenders, but stopped and looked on in bewilderment. That’s extraordinarily concerning. One of the most important traits that a player can have is to be “clutch” in critical moments. Some guys have it, and some guys can’t handle the pressure and fail. DJ failed when it mattered most last night.

    I can’t label him as a #1 anymore. He’s a guy who has #1 ability, but still needs development between the ears. I really hope he figures it out. Unfortunately we may not know until we get into a playoff game again, whenever the heck that is.
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Obviously I strongly disagree with that evaluation and he’s made clutch plays during the season including a 2 TD game after having a drop earlier in that game, those clutch moments count but really just want to say the “quitting” on the route, he lost the ball, he didn’t quit, I think thats an unfair thing to accuse him of.

    All we see is this guy busting his ass working on his game. He went from 13 drops last season to 5 this season. He’s constantly striving to fix his flaws. They are damn lucky to have him but he will never live up to perfection standards that fans have of not just him but of all players.
     
  14. BURGH43STEL

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    Imagine how good DJ might be if the offense clicked with better Oline and QB play. DJ made his mistakes. He is a player. He is probably the most important WR the Steelers have. Most difficult skill set to replace.
     
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  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’m excited about the skill positions, not just DJ but Chase, Muth and Harris. People are all up in their feels about last night still, it was a game they never really stood a chance at. I was over that before the game ended.

    There’s reason to be excited about the offense, just have to address the things you mentioned. Hopefully they get lucky with a QB.
     
  16. JAD

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    Things Dj needs to do more in the offseason:

    1. Get Stronger
    2. Keep working with the tennis balls and jugs machine
    3. Get new cleats, he is such a quick change of direction that once or twice every game he slips and falls when cutting. Get cleats that work better.
    4. Don't ever talk about being on the band wagon before a playoff game. Stupid comment and things like that have a way to come back and get you. h
     
  17. jrompola

    jrompola Well-Known Member

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    DJ is a blinker
     
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  18. mikeyg

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    he has regressed the 2nd half of the year.
    Pre snap + afraid of getting hit, he is good, work to do to be great.

    Not sure of his contract status - LOTS of work to do on offense! (not to mention NT and ILB / C on defense!!)
     
  19. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    typical childish stuff
     
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  20. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    Can the Steelers live with the handful of DJ drops might have going forward? He is talented enough to live with a few drops considering his over all production and ability to separate from DBs.

    Oline, Dline, QB, and ILB should be addressed if possible. I realize that the Steelers can't address all their needs/wants in one off season unless they are extremely luckly.
     
  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah, even I cringed at that one. Would have been ok with it until he said “when we win”. I like chips on players shoulders but don’t disrespect the other team you are about to play, especially one as talented as KC.
     
  22. MadtownDruankard

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    Baker Mayfield made some plays last two seasons. He still sucks. DJ is the bakery mayfield of WR’s. He’s targeted alot so he has a lot of catches and a lot of yards. The first half of the season he didn’t drop passes. Last few weeks he’s dropped crucial and easy balls that you have to catch. Besides drops he makes mental mistakes. He’s got talent but he’s not a good #1 wr. Anyone who’s followed the Steelers the last 20 years would agree . We’ve had our share of great WR’s . Dj is not one of them. Take just about any #1 wr on every other team, they would have the same or better stats.

    Juju’s injury was the best thing to happen to DJ . If that doesn’t happen we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
     
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  23. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking 4-5 weeks ago Johnson needed a 2nd contract. Then the drops came back, now thinking let him play next year and see where your at.
     
  24. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    Technically he became a #2
     
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  25. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering who raised this from the dead. LoL :lolol:
     

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