DHB new month

I saw Wheaton open on a couple plays. It almost seems like Ben doesn't always look his way. I guess it doesn't help that Brown is almost always open haha.

As far as DHB vs Wheaton, 1 wide open TD doesn't mean much to me. Some of the plays Wheaton has made or almost made have been far more impressive.

That being said, Wheaton OR DHB will have a big year. There are some many weapons that these guys are going to get open and become productive. A little taste of that came yesterday without two of our starters.

Exciting stuff.

 

Wheaton is not better than DHB . They force fed Wheaton last year and he couldn't handle the extra looks .Wheaton got better later in the year ,but overall his YAC and blocking was sub par. As a route runner he is not better than DHB either , in the speed category it isn't even close .

DHB is the best blocking WR on the Team , DHB is the fastest WR on the Team , DHB has won over the Coaches and his peers . His can do attitude coming from a #7 pick after falling this far in his career is admirable. People keep throwing up stats he only caught this he only caught that last season, simply because he didn't get balls thrown his way . He is doing exactly what I predicted he could do which is catch 4 or 5 balls a game and a deep ball or 2 a game . He will not be benched when Bryant gets back if he is it will be bad Coaching...

What should happen is more 4 WR sets and less 2 TE sets . Doesn't make any since to bench one weapon for another weapon use them both . The main set should be a 4 WR set and then we can spread into 5 with Bell anytime we want to .

All the DHB haters are going to have to get over it , he is getting better each and every game the tape shows it and the Coaches and his QB knows it . I have no doubt I will be able to continue the thread a month for DHB . Heck by the end of the year some of the Haters might even have to start a thread for him..lol

 

I thought Bryant was the fastest on the team?

 

Nope DHB is probably in the top 5 or 10 players in the entire NFL... DHB set the school record with a 4.23 40 yard dash. Bryant ran a 4.40 not to shabby at all, Wheaton ran a 4.45 .

DHB has no problem taking the top off of a Defense neither does Bryant ...

 

Does DHB still have that speed though?

 

Yep he sure does you can see it on Steelers Depot when they showed his use on ST'S last year . He would be 5 or 10 yards ahead of the rest of the kick off Team . You can see it on deep balls if hes even hes leaven as they say . DHB still has world class speed.

Probably a 4.3 or 4.35 guy now still NFL elite speed ..

 

I agree. Ben has got better at looking for "his" guy, certainly since Haley took over, but he still overlooks guys sometimes

Given the off-field antics, I'd say it's more likely we see the back of Bryant than Wheaton. But losing either would be a shame.

 

DBH is a great weapon to use to take the tops of defenses. As someone said above, more 4 WR sets would be great to see, once Bryant returns.

However, DBH isn't a guy that you want to throw to on 3rd down when you need to pick up a crucial 1st down. He has not proven that he can be a consistently reliable possession receiver. To be a 1-3 WR, you should be pretty reliable. Let's see if he can put together a string of good games, but he will likely maintain a role as a weapon as the 3rd or 4th WR on the team. He is older, and isn't the future.

As for the DBH vs Wheaton thing, they are two different players. Wheaton was supposed to be the slot guy this year, but since Bryant decided to smoke, had to be forced to move back outside. Wheaton got rave reviews in camp for his work in the slot. I expect once Bryant returns, that Wheaton moves to the slot and will carve up defenses with catch and runs.

DBH/Bryant on theoutside, Wheaton on the inside, Brown being Brown, that is a solid lineup.

Final thought about the ideas about trading Wheaton. They won't trade him. DBH is older and isn't more than a 3rd WR. Bryant, while extremely talented, could very easily turn into a Josh Gordan. He has had multiple violations already and some of the beat writers mentioned that his problems go beyond just smoking weed. The team surely won't trade away Wheaton and be stuck with high risk players like Bryant, unproven players like Coats, and inconsistent players like DBH to back up Brown.

 

A numbered response... Lol my computer is acting up so I'll respond to each paragraph in a reply instead of within the quote.

1. Yes, Wheaton is better. DHB is a deep threat only. Wheaton has better hands, route running, and position flexibility. Those are facts. DHB is faster and a better blocker.

2. Yes, he is fast and can block... That we know. He's actually put up a couple of nice games in the first two weeks (it could have been even better if he didn't botch an easy TD in NE at the end of the half). He essentially is a fill in deep threat. Almost all of his targets will be deep balls. It isn't a knock on the guy, it's just pretty much all he can do and he's done it pretty well so far. He's not getting benched, he's just going to be the WR4 again not WR3. Bryant is a far superior threat than DHB and will keep his place ahead of him on the depth chart when his suspension is up. If he doesn't, then it is bad coaching.

3. I'm all for 4 WR sets. Our offense can pretty much do whatever it wants when it's rolling. I'd expect to see DHB in 4 WR sets. I don't expect to see him in 3 WR sets unless someone is injured or suspended. And we can still use those 2 TE sets tho. It makes us tough to predict since we can both run it and pass it out of that formation effectively, and it doesn't tip our hand pre-snap as to which of the two is coming. We would still have 2 WR 2 TE and Bell, so we could even send a 4-5 man rout tree out of that formation. Very versatile.

4. I'm not a DHB hater. I'm really not trying to rain on your parade at all. I think Bey is a great back up and ST player, and I'm really happy he is on our team. He has made Bryant's absence much easier to deal with, and that's exactly what you want from your bench players. I know he's your favorite player (And he is a MUCH better player than your previous favorite player Redman haha) but let's not go overboard. I like the guy too, I'm just more realistic about him.

 

The biggest difference I've seen in DHB is that he is now catching the ball with his hands and not his body. Maybe working with Mann and Brown has fixed that problem. That TD catch was not an easy catching running full speed and running out of real estate. He was wide open because he blew by everyone I don't see how that is a bad thing.

 

Dri Archer is the fastest.

 

PWP said DHB is.

 

Of course he did, it's all about DHB.

 

Yeah he is extremely swift and shifty. Last night Deion Sanders said "Look how open that man is in DOUBLE COVERAGE!" and Irvin said "How do you get THAT open"?! and Deion said "Because he's the man"! I agree.

 

Just this month though. LOL.

 

Archer ran a 4.26 and DHB ran a 4.23 at a Track meet where the standards are much higher than the NFL combine. Archer never posted a sub 4.3 in College at Kent State .

DHB 100 meter champion with a 10.30 and Dri Archer in College placed 2nd. with a 10.49 100 Meter. DHB ran a 21.10 200 Meter and Archer ran a 21.46 200 Meter...DHB still holds the school record with a 4.23 40 time and DHB also holds a 4th. in the Nation with a 6.82 60 meters .

Again DHB is the fastest player on the Team period...

 

Coming out of college yes, but I'd bet DHB isn't that fast anymore. I could be wrong.

 

Ask Antoine Bethea how fast DHB is ? DHB blew right by him , oh and by the way Antoine is a 4.39 guy...

I watch the film when Archer runs out Kicks and DHB on a go routes DHB will still smoke Archer ,he was always faster than him and he still is...

 

i believe AB was only a 4.5 guy but what he does is make moves at full speed without losing speed. the ability to make multiple moves at full speed leaves db's twisted up and flat footed usually which makes him play faster. he's quick more so than fast straight up. not that 4.5 or 4.49 is slow.

 

There is speed and then there is football speed. In terms of football speed Archer doesn't look like he has it. I would say DHB is the best option we have right now when it comes to blowing the top of coverage. Once Bryant gets back it will be him because of his size and speed combo. I would think we will see some 4 WR sets once Bryant comes back and good luck trying to cover that group.

 

When did you become president of the DHB fan club?