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Deshaun Watson wanted Khan in Houston

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. biggbunch68

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    Look at me. My feelings are hurt because u didn't let me pick the Gm... boohoo I don't wanna play for ya because I didn't get my way. Booboo..... I say good riddance to him ... lol
     
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  2. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    No they wouldn’t. They would eat $21.8 million if he’s traded. Part of his dead money if he’s cut is guaranteed salary for 2021 and 2022, but if he’s traded instead of cut, the guaranteed salary goes to the new team’s cap. The $21.8 million is the prorated signing bonus which stays with the Texans.
     
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  3. Rel

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    That is really not what is happening.
     
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  4. Vox Ferrum

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    Just read that on PFN...that 50 mil plus figure was actually 67 mill quoted from Bob Labriola on Jan 14 asked and answered. Oh well, maybe Bob was wrong. I see where Bob got the figure...cut vs trade cap hit.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    They lied to him. Don’t tell him he will be included in the process if you aren’t going to follow through.

    Blame the dopey owner for making such a promise.
     
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  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    Dopey is merely the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the McNair family! :lolol:
     
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  7. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah, 67 million if cut, but that includes 45.5 million in guaranteed salary obligations that goes with him to his new team.
     
  8. DukeDukeDaDaDa

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    He was involved. Doesn't mean the owner has to do what he wants. That's not what being involved in the process means.
     
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  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    Yet allowing a narcissist in Bill O Brien to leave a very healthy form of income for said owner in shambles is?! What type of Owner allows a very healthy source of income with the potential to grow even more combust on itself?! Never mind any of that though as that is not the focus here of the thread.



    The fact that the McNair Family is LITERALLY PUSHING a TOP FIVE QB; an IMMENSE value to ANY NFL Team, right out the door is what is quite possibly the most BAFFLING development that has ever happened in the NFL in the past 20 Seasons; maybe even since the AFL/NFL Merger.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Patronizing isn’t being involved, learning about the hire through social media isn’t being involved.
     
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  11. S.T.D

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    The fact that a team is thinking of letting a (Supposed) top 5 Qb go....well...should raise some red flags....but what would we know about that....when AB left...TV talking heads said Steelers fault...3 teams later,and 10 million accusations later...TV Talking heads said ...maybe when Steelers let him go ...should've been the Red Flag
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    I think it’s more indicative of the owner. Looks like they may be moving JJ also, which isn’t as big a deal as letting Watson go but just pointing out they may be cleaning house. Traded Hopkins last offseason. I’d hate this man if I was a Texans fan.

     
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  13. Vox Ferrum

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    Making that franchise a laughing stock, Cincy fans finally get a break.
     
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  14. Formerscribe

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    Did I miss Watson quitting on his team during the season, or are the situations just very different? Yeah, it is the latter.
     
  15. S.T.D

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    I ....myself asked a question...because...I'm not on the Texans organization...so....I...really don't know what's going on behind closed doors. Just like ....I didn't in Pittsburgh...only hear say. I do believe. A team doesn't give up easy on a Top 5(supposed) Qb.
     
  16. Vox Ferrum

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    So the current word is Watson would like to go to Miami. Watson holds the cards as he has a no trade clause, but if I am Miami brass I use this to my advantage as well. No way I am trading that 3rd (plus other picks). I might offer their 2nd 1st rounder, 1st 2nd and Tua..maybe a 2rd or 4th next year to sweeten the pot.

    That 3rd pick has a lot of power this year, you could trade out, still get a top 10-15 pick, add a 2nd and future picks as well.
     
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  17. Rel

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    ESPN did an analysis of what a trade proposal from each team would have to look like to land Watson, here is what they can up with for the Steelers:

    Steelers send: 24th overall pick in 2021, 2022 first-round pick, 2023 third-round pick, OLB T.J. Watt, FB Derek Watt

    Texans send:
    2023 fifth-round pick, QB Deshaun Watson

    My take: if this is what it would take I’m all for it.
     
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  18. WinTheNorth

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    You would trade our next two first round picks plus our best player?

    Obviously getting a great QB would be a boon but (a) we would still be on the ropes to put together a good defense/o-line/RB and (b) we already have Haskins and I'd rather give that a chance to play out and use all that capital to build a supporting cast whether Haskins pans out.

    I've a hard time getting behind mortgaging our future like that. Maybe we need to see if Kevin Costner wants to be our GM for the upcoming draft :)
     
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  19. Rel

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    Never use first round picks on running backs, ever. RB are use them and lose them consumables. Build an oline, get a franchise QB, and use a stable of young running backs, cut them as they fail or become expensive.

    Franchise quarterbacks are rare....so rare that most teams never have one, ever. Draft picks are gambles every time, that's why trading a 1st round pick for Fitz made so much sense. So if you are asking me if trading 2 x lottery picks plus the Steelers best defensive player for a player that is a year younger and at a more premium position I would say yes all day long. Watt is much easier to replace than a Franchise QB, that is a fact.

    **** Haskins, really? Haskins can never be what Watson is.
     
  20. Steel_Elvis

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    That’s a too rich IMO. The price of a young, top tier edge guy (Mack) a couple of years ago was 2 first round picks. This ESPN deal basically says that Watson is worth 4 first round picks and the difference between a 3rd and a 5th. I like Watson a lot, but he’s not worth 4 first round picks.
     
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  21. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

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    I make this deal. Yes. The price tag is steep. But legit franchise quarterbacks do not grow on trees. It may take 20 years for the Steelers to land their next franchise QB. Think of how many QBs the Steelers burned through between Bradshaw and Ben. Losing Watt would suck, but it is a lot easier to replace a OLB than it is a franchise QB. Bring Bud back and pair him with Highsmith and the defense will still be formidable.
     
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  22. S.T.D

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    How do you build a team ....if you give all your draft picks away. Also have 2 cut others because of a Contract of Wilson's. 2 much . 2 much . 2 much. Let a team like Washington , Detroit, or Dallas do something team killing like that. IMO
     
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  23. S.T.D

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    It would take 20 years 2 rebuild the team after giving all that away + having 2 cut more players 2 Keep Watson signed. You don't trade all those picks, and then Get Watson for the next 5 years for free.
     
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  24. Marvology

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    They were talking 3 #1s for Watson on NFL Radio today. Usually that means that's what they're hearing off the record. You could end up with a Jimmie Johnson-esque cache of picks if they play this right.
     
  25. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

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    It's a risk/reward situation. Trading for Watson would mean the Steelers get to skip the franchise QB search that could take decades.

    The draft is a crapshoot. Keep in mind we drafted Claypool in the 2nd round just last season. Giving up a first for Fitzpatrick didn't hurt us. It benefited us by getting a far better player than what we possibly could have drafted.

    Losing two first rounders for Watson is the same kind if deal. A franchise QB is worth it IMO.

    Losing Watt would suck. But the defense would still be strong, and in a way, not paying Watt would free up money to keep other defensive pieces in place.

    This isn't going to happen. But it's fun to think about.
     
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