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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mac daddyo, Aug 30, 2021.

  1. SteelAU

    SteelAU Well-Known Member

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    looks like Coward is coming back. Surprised he got it over Finney. Finney must be playing really bad...
     
  2. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Coward, Finney and Maulet are all back,

    Banner, Tuitt and McFarland gone to IR
     
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  3. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    So Banner, Tuitt and McFarland can't come back until later in year right? What is it Week 6?

    Or are they done for year completely?

    What is with the musical chairs already by bringing guys back (Finney/Coward)? Did they get scared after Roche got poached?
     
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  4. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    They are eligible to return after missing three games so they can play week 4 if healthy

    Roche was always going to get snapped up, they clearly weren’t worried about losing him
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

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    Pretty obvious something was going on with Tuitt and Banner.
     
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  6. thorn058

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    Wasn't Roche selected pretty close to Mr. Irrelevant too?
     
  7. Benny Lava

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    Guy just can't stay healthy...showed so much promise but I think it's time to cut bait.

    7 seasons in the NFL and has only played a full regular season once (and it was his rookie year).
     
  8. SteelHack

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    Roche had one of the best first steps at the Sr.Bowl as well as great hands use. Would not have let him go.

    I am pretty positivev the guys like Coward and Finney are vested vets and not open to the waiver wire. They become FA immediately.... so the Steelers can just tell them... please don't sign we will bring you back tomorrow.

    HACK
     
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  9. SteelHack

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    216. 6TH ROUND.. also known as 17 picks after Tom Brady or 21 picks after AB

    Steelers drafted Norwood and Tiny Elvis closer to Mr Irrelevant

    HACK
     
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  10. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Late sixth, a lottery ticket essentially
     
  11. thorn058

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    I wasn't holding his draft position against him just that I thought he was one of the extremely late round picks where you can find diamonds or just coal. I thought they liked his motor and special teams ability so it would appear he didn't stand out quite as much as he could of.
     
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  12. SteelerGlenn

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    What guy
     
  13. Maddog78

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    He played every game last year that they wanted him to play. He was rested in the finale like many vets were.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    That is not accurate. Tuitt played Week 17 against the Browns. The game he missed was Dec. 2 against Baltimore, when he was on the COVID list.

    He does have trouble staying healthy and they may need to move on from him after this season, but for now, they need him back as quickly as possible. It is already a big blow to have to face the Bills without him. Hopefully, he can return the first game he is eligible for, which is Week 4 against the Packers.
     
  15. Lambert

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    Okay. These moves are fairly easy to see coming, at least in the abstract. It was clear Tuitt and Banner were hurt. We knew some vet OL cuts probably had handshake deals to return. The exact end-of-roster pieces are fungible anyway. They must like the OL options in house. Fingers crossed there. As much as I get the hope for Roche, if he was good enough he'd still be here.

    The CBs still terrify me but nothing is happening with other cuts. Again, they must like the guys already here. :shrug:

    Oh, and I seem to remember this TJ guy. Wonder whatever happened to him...
     
  16. AskQuestionsLater

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    A bit surprised that UG3 made it. Thought Quincy Roche would be in. Sadly he is not and is now a New York Giant.


    I really think he can be a rock solid pass rusher. On the bright side, Karl Joseph was signed onto the Practice Squad!!
     
  17. Lambert

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    I wish we sometimes knew the things we don't know. I was excited about Joseph, too. He sure seems like someone who should be on a 53 but he isn't. Same with Roche making the Steelers. No clue. You have to trust the decisions, which surely we never do completely, but there's nothing else to go on. Injuries we don't know about? Attitude/personal problems we don't hear about? Smelly feet? Who knows.
     
  18. AskQuestionsLater

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    :applaud:


    No doubt for certain. I definitely liked Roche coming out of Miami and thought he was going to burst onto the scene. I did not expect Jamir Jones to perform the way he did though. Ever since his impressive HOF Game debut, Jamir has not given me much to critique him for outside of the usual rookie woes. It is possible that Roche probably was not happy about a reduced snap count after said game as I do not remember him much. Steelers Depot actually has a total charting of snap totals and Jamir Jones' 192 far surpassed Quincy Roche's 156. If anything, among all 2nd to 3rd string players, both Offensive and Defensive, Tre Norwood has him beat with 200 total snaps; highest on the team. More info of this can be found here.



    Getting back to Jamir Jones vs. Quincy Roche, where Jones takes the lead among the two actually occurs in the second Preseason game per this article; again courtesy of Steelers Depot. I would have to surmise that something took place during this time as Jones' lead stays the course against Detroit and does not dip soon thereafter. Either way, he who earns more snaps usually is the one who is the most consistent and delivering the big plays. Jones cashed in more than Roche did; Jones being the winner in the end.
     
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  19. SteelersFanIrl

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    Roche showed some promise but I think I trust the organisation that saw him in practice every day. There are shades of Tuzar Skipper about the whole thing, Tuzar also ended up with the Giants ironically. Roche probably would have made the practice squad but I’m sure they knew he wouldn’t clear waivers. If they thought he had ‘it’ they would not have released him
     
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  20. Vox Ferrum

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    Agreed, for years we have had camp successes, get cut or poached and really do not amount to much. Roche may not become a huge star..he may, but you cannot teach athleticism...edge depth is so important..this might be painful to see on the future.
     
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  21. JAD

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    Does anybody know why McFarland was placed on the IR, What injury did he have?
     
  22. S.T.D

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    He(Roche)was my camp darling. Hate 2 see him gone. I bet they didn't think he'd get snatched up so quickly.
     
  23. The Sodfather

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    I get where you're coming from, but the Watts are running out of brothers to sign if that's what it takes to keep TJ happy. I'll get excoriated for this but, I'd sign him then trade him next year for the first overall, plus??? They can win it all in a few years with a new franchise QB. Joe Shmoe behind center with TJ Watt as edge rusher breaking the bank will not put the Steelers over the top in the foreseeable future.
     
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  24. The Sodfather

    The Sodfather Well-Known Member

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    Sir Isaac or Wayne?
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Did people actually like Wayne Newton....besides my Grandmother???
     

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